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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 11, 2009 - 07:33pm PT
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good thought karl. I'm not sure I can let some people off just yet. I've got a few things I have to let myself off for too, just not quite yet. But a good thing to strive for, so I'll be trying.
I think as I get closer to death, things that were seemingly important start to fall away, ans what's really important becomes more clear. so maybe it will get easier to do before very long.
THings really do fall away-- control over your body, your life, everything except your thought, and even that goes at the end, I guess.
thanks for a great suggestion, Baba Rum Karl!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 11, 2009 - 07:37pm PT
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thanks for the thoughts ed and dick.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Mar 11, 2009 - 08:38pm PT
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Good karma, Karl.
"good thought karl. I'm not sure I can let some people off just yet."
Why knott? The only person you are hurting by holding onto unforgiveness is yourself, cuz they sure don't care. There is a selfish aspect to forgiveness, because it actually benefits you. True forgiveness takes time; it's a conscious decision to let the other person off the hook for the wrongs they did to you. It takes time and effort, but given enough of each, the feelings will eventualy follow.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Mar 11, 2009 - 09:28pm PT
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Thanks for giving the idea a chance DirtMan. I like that you're honest enough to admit there's a few things you're holding on to.
I hope I, or we, don't get all preachy in Dirty but there's just one thing I need to add.
It is exactly the hardest forgiveness that has the deepest magic. Sit with the idea for a bit and when it starts to reveal its magic, then friggen get psyched, stare down the hardest bitter pill to swallow, and embrace it with all you can muster.
You don't want to skip the crux. You're going for the final send here so you won't need a rack or a rope. What you have to lose? To hold nothing against anybody is to be free.
Love it
Baba
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 12, 2009 - 12:04am PT
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I suppose 215 posts without anything I didn't like was a lot. I had hoped it would stay taht way.
but I find this one completely in the category of annoying as hell, and inappropriate.
Author:
'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
From: like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Good karma, Karl.
"good thought karl. I'm not sure I can let some people off just yet."
Why knott? The only person you are hurting by holding onto unforgiveness is yourself, cuz they sure don't care. There is a selfish aspect to forgiveness, because it actually benefits you. True forgiveness takes time; it's a conscious decision to let the other person off the hook for the wrongs they did to you. It takes time and effort, but given enough of each, the feelings will eventualy follow.
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I'm not going to elaborate, this post just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, while none of the others have. Apparently you did not even read what I wrote.
I like what Karl said.
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dougs510
Social climber
down south
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Mar 12, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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Good luck Friday Dirt... have peace man.
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up2top
Big Wall climber
Phoenix, AZ
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:05am PT
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Cancer is sinister. I can only imagine the suffering you've endured. I'm sorry that you're going through this, Curt. I don't have any profound wisdom to offer, but I wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you.
Ed
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Mar 12, 2009 - 03:41am PT
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Dirt,Buena Suerte!...Donde hay vida,hay esperanza.
xo...n.t.
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dougs510
Social climber
down south
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Mar 13, 2009 - 02:42am PT
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Bump for the dirt man.... tomorrows the day... send positive thoughts, prayers, mantras or whatever else you may think will heal...Personally, I believe in the power of Jesus of Nazareth. Although, when I asked for healing in my back, it got worse, I still hold the believe strong. Dirt, no offence, but I couldn't live w/ myself if I didn't mention the saving grace of JC....
John 3:16
Who believes in Him (JC) shall not perish but have everlasting life.
It's not what I say, it's what God says...
Best to you bro,
doug
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Mar 13, 2009 - 03:37am PT
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Been avoiding this thread without realizing it. I didn't want to read anything bad. But turns out it's all good vibes here.
Easy Redpoint for you Curt. Stick the crux. You'll fire it.
You got enough reading material to keep you busy? I've got a brand new Colorado 14'r book here, and I think you are closer to those mtns than I. Ping me on email if that's something you're into. It's that or a copy of playboy. ;)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 13, 2009 - 04:15am PT
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Dirt, you might get the duct removed or unblocked, but I have my doubts it's going to remove the healthy dose of bile that's part of your on-line signature. He-he, don't be all up and suddenly goin' soft on us.
Hang in there man - hoping today goes well for you...
-Joseph
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 13, 2009 - 11:06am PT
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no ontention of going soft! Wish me luck.
herhe we go....
and tanks for everything ST folks.
I'm stunned at teh outpouring of concern.
means a lot to me.
back on st night maybe, or sunday.
hopefully feeling mUCH better.
Curt
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scuffy b
climber
just below the San Andreas
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Mar 13, 2009 - 12:54pm PT
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Pleasant Dreams, Curt.
See you Monday (here)
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 13, 2009 - 04:22pm PT
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Good luck dirt!
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RRK
Trad climber
Talladega, Al
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Mar 13, 2009 - 09:57pm PT
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just heard from Dirt and things did not go well. The surgeon got to the right spot but could not continue due to inflamed tissue. They may be able to adjust the drain later but will not be able to put in the stent. Time to back up and regroup. He'll be home tomorrow and will fill in the gaps.
RRK
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Mar 13, 2009 - 10:27pm PT
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good vibes your way, Dirt!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 13, 2009 - 10:37pm PT
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hey there dirt and all.. say, i missed some news here and will have to back-track... hope you are feeling okay when you get home, dirtineye....
still have been praying, though... welcome back home, as folks said you would be home on monday?
god bless...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 13, 2009 - 10:43pm PT
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hey there rrk... say, now i see what was up.... say, if the inflamation goes down, perhaps can they still do this?
well, we could be praying... just never know...
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 15, 2009 - 01:53am PT
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feel terrible will write more later... new thoguhts from the doc who tried the stint.. he HATES to fail, best person for this stuff in a med center town.. he's already come up with two new ideas.... swear he was as dissapointed as I was when the stint would not go-- I could see it in his face. the man is brilliant too... and has a lot of concern for his patients.
Meanwhile, I HURT, DOH! the damned tube seems to be blocked again, trying to milk it out, we'll see.
And, unfortunately, I can feel the end coming. funny how as it gets closer, I get calmer... not what I'd expect.
damnit all my religious nutjob friends, pray harder!!!
Who lives in sacramento and sent a card signed fellow super topo denizen? My guess is lynne, but I don't know.
Please put you NAME on cards, lOL.
Word for that day is, OWWWW!
thanks again for all the niceness sent my way.
Curt.
PS did not sleep a wink in hospital firday night. I thnk bad news makes me wan t to live every second or something-- I can sleep when I'm dead, or something.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Mar 15, 2009 - 02:07am PT
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Dirt-Man, I was sort of waiting up to see if you'd post. Sorry to hear the stint didn't work. But keep milking that drain long enough to give the good Doc time to think up and apply new magic. Really, really sorry you're hurtin' so much.
Much love, brother.
-Jeff
EDIT: but don't suffer too much just for us...go freely and with our best thoughts and wishes when you feel the need...you've made your mark in our hearts and minds already...
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