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Binks

Social climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:36pm PT
I've never personally met an avowed communist (and yes, I attended college).

But you know, there's a terrorist (or communist) behind every Bush.

You must believe it.

Or else you are against the holders of the true moral flame of America.

I'm a Marksman\Lennonist (John) myself.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:40pm PT
this thread is even stupider than the average political thread here at st.

american catholic women's review says that jurgen habermas is a communist.

hahahahahahahahaha!

why don't you just cut-and-paste the protocols of the elders of zion while you're at it.

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:41pm PT
For many years, Vancouver had a real live communist on its city council. A man named Harry Rankin. He was a decorated veteran and a lawyer, and his practice focused on representing the underdogs of society - often to the embarrassment of the establishment. He was on council for 20 years, and apart from occasional attacks of potty-mouth, was acknowledged as having been an excellent councilor. Council was and is dominated by business interests, but even they recognized the need for a honest, loyal opposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Rankin
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:53pm PT
Blah blah blah. Can anyone tell me what I want to know about them?

Again I ask: Do they taste good deep fried or are they just bad eats?

I hear there are a lot of them out here in Kalifornia-stan especially in The Peoples Republic of Berkeley. What do I do with them? Do I cook them, hang out with them, drink with them, put them to work, put them in jail, send them to Oaksterdamn University? What's a kev to do - I'm so confused.

Minerals got any advice?

kev
Binks

Social climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:09pm PT
Communists are nothin'

What's genuinely subversive is a man who has been known keep his own mind *gasp*. Like the guy who goes to your church who voted for Obama and abortion rights.

Nothing worse than someone who won't conform to agreement about our commonly (or should I say corporately) agreed enemies and sense of what Patriotism entails.

Communists -pshaw. Those are straw men. A cheap substitute for the Inquisitorial powers lost.
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
The majority of the world is capitalist and yet the majority of the world barely manages to not starve. How's that working out?


The "majority" of the world that you are referring to has no economic system at all.

And now for the obvious retort: How are the communist countries doing these days?

China seems to be doing well lately, is that because they are more or less communist than they have been?

History buried this debate about 20 years ago.


bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 05:21pm PT
Again the agenda;

To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution - but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ - the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:

• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
• abolish all forms of male dominance - hence the presence of women in the armed forces
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’
Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s long-term operation thus: ‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.'

The School believed there were two types of revolution: (a) political and (b) cultural. Cultural revolution demolishes from within. ‘Modern forms of subjection are marked by mildness’. They saw it as a long-term project and kept their sights clearly focused on the family, education, media, sex and popular culture.

Many people don't realize they'll in lock-step with Marxists, driving toward the same goal. These 'useful idiots' are used to achieve that goal. They also realize 'communist' or 'Marxist' doesn't fly very well, especially in American politics, so they use other terms. Like 'progressive' or 'green'.

Maybe you're aware Van Jones (former Obama appointee) thought of the green movement as a way to break capitalism and deliver rights back to the people.

They're around, just don't openly call themselves commies anymore.

Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:25pm PT
The "majority" of the world that you are referring to has no economic system at all.

Not true. Through imperialism, the European and American capitalist have touched every nation in the world. And if you think China is communist, you need to do more reading.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:27pm PT
Binks

Social climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:31pm PT
Where is this Frankfurt school and how do I get my kids into it? *wink*


1. The creation of racism offences. Yes.
2. Continual change to create confusion. -Sounds good if the confusion is directed. Anyway, life was confusing even though my school wasn't Marxist.

3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children. Fine by me. I got my education from the next door neighbor's magazines.

4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority. -I thought this was a right wing mantra.

5. Huge immigration to destroy identity. -You mean like what we did to the Native Americans? Oh wait, you mean WHITE identity. Got it.

6. The promotion of excessive drinking. -So now it's a crime to be Irish?
7. Emptying of churches -Wouldn't bother me.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime. -Somehow I think this just means we need evidence to convict.

9. Dependency on the state or state benefits -You mean like Health Care?
10. Control and dumbing down of media -Like Faux News?
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family -You mean any family that isn't nuclear, right?


Let me get this straight, you are trying to pin these ideas as identifiers on a specific group of people in this country, you claim are "hiding out" among people who are "progressive" or "green" as a means of equating them with the atrocities perpetuated under some "communist" governments. This is some of the weirdest paranoia I've read in a while. Please continue to post these amazing disclosures of the traitors among us. I hate to break it to you man, but no such cohort exists in any organized fashion. You'd have trouble finding anyone who agreed to all those things and most people would like a few and reject a few. What's a man in search of the GENUINE PUBLIC ENEMY to do?
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:32pm PT
bluering inhabits a rather Manichaean world. Everything in black and white, no ambiguities or nuances.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 05:39pm PT
Here ya go, Binks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_school
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
I don't think China is (purely) communist. The fact that they're not explains why they are doing so well lately.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:44pm PT
All the groups you name, bluering, have one thing in common: they are essentially politically and economically powerless.

Each generation since the time of the Romantic, French and American revolutions have been rebelling against white male pateral figures. Check out D.H. Lawrence, Ibsen, Pound and James Joyce. And, incidentally, each one of those literary figures, except for Ibsen, were extreme right wingers.

The Bolsheviks no longer exist; they went out of business c. 1989-90. You shouldn't confuse domestic enemies of the Right with an organized Marxist-Leninist political party in a foreign state. Hitler killed his domestic racial and political enemies as if that was a means of fighting the Red Army on the Eastern Front.

It does seem as though the Right has been unhappy ever since the Communists called it quits. Now, they don't have any enemies, foreign or domestic, to attack.
Binks

Social climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:54pm PT
It's all Fear of a Black Planet stuff. Thank you Public Enemy.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Feb 24, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
If, according to bluering, the International Workers of the World are "prolly nazi's [sic]", how in the world are they also communists? The National Socialists and the Bolsheviks despised each other; fought heated street battles in the streets of German cities, which were only a prelude to the big battles on the Eastern Front in WWII.

Doesn't make sense! Sounds like you're confusing US domestic culture wars with real geo-political global right-left conflicts. But of course since the end of the Cold War that global stuff is basically Kaput. No money in it anymore.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 06:14pm PT
Sorry, Bruce, you are correct. The WWP is Marxist/Leninist, not NAZI-esque.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6603

My mistake.



EDIT:

he is heavily influenced by Glen Beck, the only member of the media to put any real time into the smear campaign against Jones.

Uh, no I'm not. And you're wrong about media coverage of Jones.
Binks

Social climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 06:30pm PT
OK, I gotta confess, I'm aware of the hidden communists bluey writes about. Thanks to the genius of right wing punditry and allied religious dogmatists their secret agenda to infiltrate the progressives and greens has now been blown. Outed. Damn. Thank god we finally know who the bad guys are, even if they don't know who they are themselves. It's been so disorienting since the collapse of the USSR that I had long considered suicide. Without an enemy, I'm nothing.

But the glorious white patriots of the right still don't know about the new secret agenda of these secret communists...to infiltrate the GOP itself! Cloaked in the very language of patriotism of many who are considered holy by the right might there in fact, hide a completely unrelated agenda? The seeds of doubt have been sown... Patriots, denounce the enemies in your midst!
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
Feb 24, 2010 - 06:44pm PT
I've been missing the CCCP logos at the Olympics. The games used to have that cool geo-political edge to them.

I can't determine what this thread is about.

Binks

Social climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
It's not about anything. Some people think it's about something, but when you cut the crap there is nothing there. Communists, Patriots, Capitalists, Nazis, Wolves and Grizzly Bears then the whole thing goes up in smoke.
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