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John Moosie
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Mar 26, 2007 - 01:49am PT
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Ray, I think that you would be surprised at how many people here give a rats ass about you. I know that I am glad that you are here. Maybe you have been looking at the negative sides of things for too long and need to see the positive things in your life. The world is a mirror. What you give out is what you get. If you want Love, then you gots to give a little. I know that I am learning that. I put myself in a bigtime hole by thinking that my problems were worse then anyone elses. I am not saying that you feel that way. I am just saying that the way out of any problem is to give what you think you are missing. The ego plays with your mind and causes you to miss what is all around you.
I care about you Ray, and I believe that others here do to.
John
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 26, 2007 - 02:00am PT
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That's swell John.
I've chosen to strip my life down to the essentials and do the things I'm good at, the things that make me happy. This has worked way better than the alternative, of course I'm pleased for my friends who have found their fulfillment with family etc.
I think that even if a person doesn't maybe have what society says they need to be content, they can still thrive and be truly happy.
Thanks.
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nita
climber
chico ca
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Mar 26, 2007 - 02:01am PT
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Hell-Ray, You have a great big Supertopo Family. I definitely
appreciate your helpful kindness. xoxo nita
Pegan you once talked about sense of community on S.T....
Testify again Pagan.
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabon movin on
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Mar 26, 2007 - 02:07am PT
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Still off the nic. Gettin easier.. so much so that bravery made me start to cut-off the Cutty Sark during the week. Damn vices got to go before I disapear.
Sick of substances making choices for me.
Thank God for Orbit....or perhaps the Wrigley Jr. Company in Chicago.
and thank you Easter Bunny
for leaving baby carrots alone.
-Spark
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 26, 2007 - 02:18am PT
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Some people are just better off with a really simple life - I'm one for sure.
A well adjusted bachelor.
I'm still passionate about my work and thanks to the people who post here - getting back into climbing and the outdoors.
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John Moosie
climber
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Mar 26, 2007 - 02:28am PT
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I don't know about the adjusted part, but I am a bachelor too. My cooking sort of sucks. If I could just learn to cook or become use to eating only sandwhiches or if I could find someone to fix me a decent meal occasionally then I just might be considered well adjusted. Still haven't got that part figured out.
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Mar 26, 2007 - 12:16pm PT
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Hmm - I think I said something like -
I like it here.
Out there, when I tell people what I do for fun, most of them look at me like I'm from mars or something.
Here, most would say 'wimp, why just yesterday we went and did...'
I like that. Makes me feel like I'm actually yapping to people that know what the heck I'm talking about. Woody posted in my 'thank you for this' thread that we are all mutants here, just be glad to be a part of something.
And I am. Very much so.
That 'Thank you' thread came about one night where I was here alone and got some really bad news from a friend that was too far away for me to help. I got a lot of support from a lot of people here, and it helped to know I wasn't alone - that's special, something you don't get everywhere, something to hold on to and cherish. It is far too easy to feel alone in this day and age.
Mike Libecki made a comment when he spoke last month about climbers being a 'tribe'. I liked that way of putting it a lot, actually. I think he nailed it. Even those of us that may disagree - there is still some commonality that is central to how many of us define ourselves, imho...
We care Ray, we're here for you if you need us. Seriously ;-)
I think piquaclimber's show us your picture thread shows that more than any yapping I could ever put here in this text box. How many times have any of you gone back just to see what is new there, see who put something up to share - smiles and families and moments - we are *definitely* a community here, and it's so nice to be part of *something*...
This place rocks. Props to Chris M for letting us play here.
-Tom
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L
climber
The Rebel L Gang
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Mar 26, 2007 - 12:28pm PT
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Word, Pagan. You rock!
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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Mar 26, 2007 - 12:38pm PT
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Hey Pagan, between this thread and the recent pics thread I have been very inspired. There IS a community here. The pics thread has gotten folks back in touch with each other. And ST as a whole offers a chance to 'meet' and greet people from all over. It's our virtual campfire.
[No self-respecting climber settles for a little campfire, of course].
So, 'quitters,' it's Monday March 26? How goes your March Madness?. I am most interested in how you manage to deal with specific triggers. Caylor spoke of how getting his fix was imbued with routine. I'll never forget the 'shower chew,' and man, I'd hate to hear you explain your brown toes!
I'd bet that it's hard to describe the triggering events as being seperate from the routine ones. But have you discovered anything over the last few weeks?
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 26, 2007 - 12:46pm PT
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Man I'm doin' great bvb and I been trading jokes like that for years.
Brian Eno said one of the reasons he left Roxy Music is that the music itself had lost a certain quality he called insanity...laughing...There's a certain madness to climbing that is absolutely one of the most divine and sane things in the world. Amazing.
in your best Ahhnold voice
I'LL BE BACK!
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Mar 26, 2007 - 12:52pm PT
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"There's a certain madness to climbing that is absolutely one of the most divine and sane things in the world."
gold. pure gold...I'm stealing that one Raydog ;-)
edit - ok - borrowing...
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabon movin on
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Mar 27, 2007 - 02:22am PT
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Ok....
I just bought my first house (townhouse).
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOD do I want a chew.
It's funny how such a present big point in life brings out such a big past mistake.
Actually, it's not funny.
It's fvcked.
I'm still happy sippin my Harvey's Bristol Cream
:-)
-Spark
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2007 - 11:37am PT
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Just wondering how those who put down the nic are still doing??
I found putting down the chew was the easy part. It's th Jack in the Box that came up afterward that packd the punch.
JL
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L
climber
The Rebel L Gang
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Mar 29, 2007 - 11:44am PT
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My hat's off to you, John. First, for cleaning up your health for yourself and for those two gorgeous girls of yours. And second, for being such an inspiration on this forum.
Have you stuffed Mr. Jack back in his box yet?
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Mar 29, 2007 - 11:48am PT
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Haven't had a cig or a puff of any sort for a while now...and just went 4 nights without drinking myself stupid at 7:15 pm each night...
This is new for me. funny - growing up now that i'm gonna be 40 in a month...
I hope everyone else is making it too...
-Tom
edit - now if I could just kick my sick taco habit...
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C4C
Social climber
ADKS, NY
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Mar 29, 2007 - 12:11pm PT
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hey john, that mnt uni stuff is sick looking. there was somebody over on rc.com looking for you earier and since I haven't seen you on there lately I thought that I would give you a heads-up here. Glad you are doing well on kickin the habit. J in the B stuff will kill you faster than the nic!
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juneau
Mountain climber
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Mar 29, 2007 - 09:07pm PT
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Hi everyone,
I wanted to report that I'm 72 hours nic free, all of my past efforts have lasted 48 hours or less so this is uncharted terrain now(for me). I feel good! Thanks Largo for the inspiration/support! To some it may seem like no biggie but when nic is apart of your day to day routine..it's a bit of mind chess.
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John Moosie
climber
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Mar 29, 2007 - 09:24pm PT
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Woooo Hoooo !!! This thing is growing. Excellent !
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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Mar 30, 2007 - 11:18am PT
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hey juneau:
Way to go! I hope this post finds you well on your way to quitting. This thread shows that a lot of folks here DO realize that quitting nicotine IS a big deal.
It's way more than just a 'little willpower' - you are overcoming one of the most powerful drugs.
Hang in there, it's noble.
Bill
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2007 - 01:32am PT
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To all those who quit cigs, chew, et al, how's it all going?
I'm like 3 weeks into it (or out of it - nicotine, that is) and my energy is still swinging up and down. Such a strange landing . . .
JL
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