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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 17, 2018 - 12:47am PT
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You mad bro?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 17, 2018 - 03:44pm PT
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Sorry hB, but the phrase was once "rust in peace" and had to be altered when Neil Young's attorney filed a challenge. Once the case was dismissed, not necessarily stoopid, but rather LAAZY people who don't attend to the news just never got back on track.
Long as I'm here, we all (or at least many of us) know that rust never sleeps, but do termites?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2018 - 09:47pm PT
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The race was not given to the quick or the swift, but to the one who could endure to the end. Then we found out there was no end.
The unwary soul, who fails to grapple with the Mocking Demon of Illusion, will return to the earth as the slave of Illusion. To become a true master of fate, you must first become a true "Knower of Self".
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2018 - 11:42pm PT
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What is happening now is most people are operating with only limited senses, rather than the five we are supposed to have. They can't smell things because there is such a barrage of contaminants overwhelming their sense of smell. They can't taste much with food so processed and contaminated. They need strong spices to even enjoy their food, not to mention whether they are getting adequate nutrients. They live in an overwhelm of sound and would rather talk than listen and need the sounds of constant radio and TV to block disturbing thoughts from their minds. They touch, but do not feel the energy of what they are touching. They look, but do not see true reality, just illusion. It is easy for our perceptions to be manipulated by those who understand how the senses work. And without all five senses working well, we can not utilize our 'sixth sense'. Most have calcified Pineal Glands
due to fluoride intake, meat, processed starches and artificial sugars.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Feb 22, 2018 - 05:32pm PT
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They look, but do not see true reality, just illusion. It is easy for our perceptions to be manipulated by those who understand how the senses work
It is possible, but not likely, that our perceptions are manipulated by those who understand how the 11 dimensions of sub-particle matter work.
I just did a search for "two protons alpha centauri."
A result that could interest Tom:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03556.pdf
But what I was looking for:
https://www.fictionunbound.com/blog/2016/4/30/three-body-problem
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Feb 22, 2018 - 06:24pm PT
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Jim,
I met Randy Atkinson a couple days ago. It was totally unexpected. We are both working on learning things and he is about four years ahead of me and it helped me a lot to talk to him.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Feb 22, 2018 - 07:20pm PT
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He is enjoying many good times.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 09:45am PT
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your mind is your most valuable tool
thinking you are your mind is your primary distraction
while you relinquish control, your mind ties up your energy and runs amok
so your mind is being kept busy with distractions
keeping your mind distracted is the primary method used by the controllers
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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keeping your mind distracted is the primary method used by the controllers
Do you mean controllers as actual people or something else? I tend to think that the paradigm is institutionalized and humans as controllers are no longer necessary. Humans are just too messy and unpredictable.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 11:38am PT
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actual people and something else
look at the common realities created by how many people watch TV
and how many people show up to watch a sports game or concert
super markets and shopping malls
hours spent commuting on highways
rock climbers are at least a little bit outside the main stream
who do you think is engineering all this?
it's called mental entrainment
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 12:51pm PT
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we are all one
so of course we can share experiences and thoughts and feelings
it is only the overactive mind creating the illusion of separateness
this is a basic mental misunderstanding perpetuating much of this discussion
i am surprised that people who have shared a rope on climbs would think otherwise
drugs and other experiential contrivances can bust down mental barriers and give you a look at this for a while before the mind reacts to raise even more powerful barriers
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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who do you think is engineering all this?
who or what, or who and what.
egregores from a forgotten rebellion.
I really don't know but I do smell something rotten.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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We have to keep at least two thoughts in mind at the same time:
"We are all the same"
and
"Follow the money"
If people with all the money say we are all the same, ask them for the money...
... and if they don't respond appropriately, well...
... I wouldn't be very convinced...
But that's America ain't it? ... full of business tricksters...
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 01:56pm PT
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who do you think is engineering all this?
That is a worthwhile question to keep asking. I have been asking it for fifty years. I know some of the answers and have some ideas about more of the answers. But that is sort-of off topic for this thread. I am not prepared to tackle another thread on that topic.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 02:06pm PT
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We have to keep at least two thoughts in mind at the same time:
"We are all the same"
and
"Follow the money"
If people with all the money say we are all the same, ask them for the money...
... and if they don't respond appropriately, well...
... I wouldn't be very convinced...
But that's America ain't it? ... full of business tricksters...
I didn't say we are all the same ... that is certainly a falsity at the level of the manifesting material universe.
I did say we are all one ... and that is at the level of universal consciousness. Granted that fact certainly has major implications for the manifesting material universe.
And follow the money is certainly good advice for researching the social control structure where 'Babylonian money magik' with the 'fractional reserve system' is the primary control structure for this society ... i.e. money created from nothing loaned at interest with no mechanism for creating more money to pay off the interest so as to perpetually enslave debtors ...
But that is off topic for this thread.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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But that is sort-of off topic for this thread
Fair enough but you brought it up. This is your thread and you bring up a lot of interesting topics and I get that you want to stay on track but do you really want to be hall monitor and steer the "conversation" to your own narrow direction. Is it still a conversation or something else?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 03:45pm PT
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Yes. It's appropriate to call this our campfire. A great thing about this media is that anyone can take the conversation in any direction they want and others can follow that line of discussion or not as they wish. I have been following the 'What is Mind' thread with great interest. But most of my attempts to direct the discussion towards universal consciousness and levels of awareness didn't travel very far. So I started this thread, really as an offshoot of that discussion. I am still just as interested in the mind thread. And there are or can be other threads addressing some of the tangential issues briefly discussed here.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Cool. I admire your effort. I will check in now and then to see how it goes.
I like and have used that campfire analogy myself but I no longer look at this forum that way for many reasons. I realized long ago that my interests, opinions and perspective are unimportant to anyone but me. Lately I just want to shut up and dance. Slow dance.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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MH2: meant to post this for you... assuming you hadn’t seen it: it’s more evidence that, at least to my eyes over the years, you’re a wise one around here... because yes, it is necessarily the humblest who stand up and say be humble... ;)
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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