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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 10, 2017 - 09:04am PT
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only level headed analysis i've seen so far is
Reuters and BBC. CNN is a sad joke.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 09:33am PT
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WaPost:
So, just as Comey requests more money for the Trump probe, of the exact same person from Justice that recommended his firing to Trump, Trump fires him.
Comey sought more money for FBI’s Russia probe days before he was fired, officials say
James B. Comey made the request in a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and Senate Intelligence Committee members were briefed on the request on Monday.
And our favorite Admin Spokes:
Kellyanne Conway: It’s ‘inappropriate’ to question timing of firing
I wonder if we are even allowed to THINK about the question of timing of firing? I guess they'll let us know.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 09:34am PT
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how many of you noticed that a couple hours after this story broke, that grand jury indictments in the flynn case were dropped?
What indictments?
What Grand Jury?
This is a National Security matter. Everyone involved has to have top secret security clearances, which a Grand Jury does not have.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 09:39am PT
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Of course, the democrats would have made sure the same thing happened.
Gotta make sure JGill's associates are treated well by the IRS
the IRS puts white-nationalist groups in the same category as orchestras, planetariums and zoos
The 2016 election saw white nationalists openly and widely champion President Trump, raising their profile in American politics and adding overtly racist voices that were not part of the national dialogue in recent elections.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 09:41am PT
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What do they say? The winner writes the history?
All of Trump’s campaign statements just vanished from his website. So let’s remember them.
Whatever the reasons for their disappearance, the statements are all preserved in the Internet’s unofficial archives. Here are some of the more memorable statements.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 09:43am PT
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With Comey’s dismissal, the Russia investigation will soon be run by Trump allies
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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May 10, 2017 - 10:03am PT
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I truly, truly, hope this is accurate. So far, this person HAS proved to be accurate. So....
Form Pinned Tweet: https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated
Claude Taylor @TrueFactsStated 2h2 hours ago
There's 25 sealed indictments. Thanks to Comey and the Assistant United States Attorney. Waiting for them to be unsealed-it's when. Not if.
Did anyone see the clip on tv where Russia Prime Minister replies with unhidden sarcasm to question regarding Comey's firing, and Tillerson smirks, as they walk away with a dismissive hand gesture?
Gawd, I hope the sealed indictments are true. Otherwise, it is going to get bad and fast.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 10:07am PT
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Sean Spicer says Sally Yates was a ‘strong supporter’ of Hillary Clinton. His evidence: Rumors.
Oh, really, Sean?
In 1989, she was hired as Assistant U.S. Attorney by Bob Barr for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Georgia
Hired by the most conservative man in Congress? Who led the Impeachment of Bill Clinton?
She rose to First Assistant U.S. Attorney in 2002 and to Acting U.S. Attorney in 2004.
Both times nominated by GW Bush
So a dedicated non-partisan profession, who had served administrations of both parties. Who said, in her questioning by Jeff Sessions for her last appointment:
On May 13, 2015, the United States Senate voted 84–12 (4 not voting) to confirm Yates as Deputy Attorney General of the United States, the second-highest-ranking position in the Justice Department;[12][13] during her confirmation hearing, when questioned by Senator Jeff Sessions if she would disobey a president's unlawful orders, she responded that she would have an obligation to follow the law and the Constitution, and to give an independent legal advice to the president
I thought the GOP was about following the law, and the Constitution? I guess not.
I would expect that we will see the oath of office of federal employees changed soon. They will be required to swear allegiance to the President, NOT to the Constitution.
"If dedicated government officials deem [Trump's] directives to be unlawful and unconstitutional, he will simply fire them as if government is a reality show."
The New York Times and others drew comparisons to U.S. President Richard Nixon's dismissal of special prosecutor Archibald Cox in the Saturday Night Massacre and "some cable networks"[34] began calling Yates's dismissal the "Monday Night Massacre".
Watergate investigative journalist Carl Bernstein, however, speaking on CNN, rejected the comparison.
"There's a big difference, because the Saturday Night Massacre was really about firing the attorney general when Nixon was the target of an investigation and was actively obstructing justice",
That would be more like firing, say, Comey.............
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 10:13am PT
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Gawd, I hope the sealed indictments are true. Otherwise, it is going to get bad and fast.
Happi, I think this may be about Flynn's not complying with the law in acting as a paid agent of a foreign country in lobbying.
I don't believe it has anything to do with his potential collusion with the Russians in overturning our election. (or knowledge of it happening)
HOWEVER, it would be a POWERFUL tool in forcing his cooperation.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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May 10, 2017 - 10:23am PT
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If you are drawing your conclusion from what you are getting in online versions of print media, your conclusions will be based on days old information.
Either we are getting massively played by worse than imagined, to keep the Resistance on simmer, or the Twittees I have bee posting(as above) have information coming directly from intelligence community.
According to these folks, the IC knows E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G on the Trump/Russia connection. If so - my new favorite hashtag is: #ThereWillBeHanging
Not that I wish for anyone to lose a father, or brother, or Uncle or Son. Especially when they lose them because they were traitors. But not only are these folks(if what is being told is true) traitors to their country; they have betrayed each and every single person in this country AND those who depend on us for support. Betrayed in a way SO MUCH WORSE that what Judas did to Jesus, for all those hiding behind their love for Jesus Christianity while they do NO do what Jesus would do.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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May 10, 2017 - 10:23am PT
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......... with the Russians in overturning our election. (or knowledge of it happening)
Ken M .... you need to seek out some HELP with your delusions. Please for your family's sake.
but please keep it coming, I get belly laughs from your "statements".
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 10, 2017 - 10:32am PT
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If you are drawing your conclusion from what you are getting in online versions of print media, your conclusions will be based on days old information.
It is worth noting the phenomenon known as "the fog of war", in which early reports on thing are often wrong.
Things reported on "legitimate media" generally have to go through a vetting process, with reporters having to present their evidence and their case to an experienced editor, who must approve the publication.
There is no such process in the "Twitterverse". In fact, that lack of vetting allows the publication of all sorts of outrageous lies, and I don't mean mistakes, I mean deliberate lies. (see: Trump, Donald)
I would far rather read something that has had some degree of vetting by a news organization, which stands behind their reporting and has a lot to lose if they are wrong---even if it causes the news item to be a little bit behind.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 10, 2017 - 10:35am PT
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The Fake News people think this whole Russia thing is a farce
just like Climate Change and science
do they ever admit to being wrong after the facts are laid bare?
No, they will say they always believed "whatever" to save face
Hey Guy, the Russia thing will take down Trump, along with many others
Believe me now or believe me after all is said and done
maybe then you will get the help you need to sort fact from fiction
The Trump campaign Was In Collusion with Russia, Fact
Trump borrowed 100s of Millions of Dollars from Russia
Trump has Business deals worth 100s of millions in Russia, Indonesia and Saudi (where they kill Gays and keep women repressed)
Trump has been used as a Russian Patsy and can be blackmailed by Russia
Trump is doing a very poor job of covering up his guilt
Who else is complement?
Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Jeff Sessions, forgot to mention he talked to the Russians on the campaign
Rex Tillerson, Putin's best Friend
Page Carter, Russian diplomat
Flynn, being paid by Russia to spy and leak National Secrets
And his campaign chairman, Mister Russia Paul Manafort
and they all are using private servers?????
Lock em up!!
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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May 10, 2017 - 10:41am PT
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I do agree with your statement, and am pretty leary of accepting Twitterese at face value. However, the folks I have been following have been consistently shown to be ahead of main media by about three days. Media is ALL following these men, and woman, and then going in search of the multiple source conf so they can say it without risk of being ass-bitten.
I have been following @20Committee for about 5 months, and so far....ALL the stuff that has come out on MSM I read via his feed(his statements and more often RT's of a select other few) days earlier.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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May 10, 2017 - 10:46am PT
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Just peaking in.
Lots of theories out there, but everything pertinent is classified...until it's leaked.
What we do know, about the Trump ties to Russian election interference, is that:
James Clapper stated there are no Russian ties.
Sally Yates stated there are no Russian ties.
Maxine Waters stated there are no Russian ties.
We also know that:
Hillary, as SOS, made a deal with Russia on uranium.
Podesta has stock in Russian gas company that would make more money if fracking in the US was limited.
Trump wants to increase fracking for natural gas.
Pass the popcorn, reality is better than "House of Cards".
Tchau
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 10, 2017 - 10:47am PT
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James Clapper stated there are no Russian ties.
Sally Yates stated there are no Russian ties.
Maxine Waters stated there are no Russian ties.
100% WRONG
They said very clearly that the Trump campaign had ties with Russia
and that Russia is Still involved in some kind of espionage
Hillary, as SOS, made a deal with Russia on uranium. Hillary did not make this deal, the Dept. of Energy and the State did.
so more WRONG
where did you get your fake News?
Fox or Rush
Is the Hillary campaign being investigated for ties to Russia?
NO
Why even bring it up?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 10, 2017 - 10:55am PT
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I love how Team Trump is trying to sell this firing like it was the idea of the Deputy AG.
Does anyone, even Trump fans, believe this bullsh#t?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 10, 2017 - 11:16am PT
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There are still many tribalists that cling to what they want to be true
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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May 10, 2017 - 11:21am PT
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Craig;
I should have said they were all quoted as saying there is no "evidence" of collusion between Russia and Trump.
Otherwise it's all true, not 100% wrong.
I'll withdraw the statement on Hillary
The Snopes article does have a tidbit
It is also true that large donations to the foundation from the chairman of Uranium One, Ian Telfer, at around the time of the Russian purchase of the company and while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, were never disclosed to the public. The multimillion sums were channeled through a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation, CGSCI, which did not reveal its individual donors.
Such awkward collisions between Bill’s fundraising activities and Hillary’s public service have raised concerns not just among those who might be dismissed as part of a vast right-wing conspiracy.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/
Wouldn't you say it at least looks pretty fishy?
Cheers
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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May 10, 2017 - 11:42am PT
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I should have said they were all quoted as saying there is no "evidence" of collusion between Russia and Trump.
Hmmm...I think not. The evidence, if there is any, is still Classified, and therefore they CAN NOT CONFIRM OR DENY.
That is what is my understanding. From watching/hearing the clips where they were asked "the question," and their responses at that time. And from comments made by specialists in the filed of National Security and Intelligence.
We want to hear what we want to hear, and we watch news that supports what we want to hear, but we MUST remember that the news we are getting MAY be edited in a way to present a particular perspective.
I think that about the only thing we can all agree on is that we are indeed living in interesting times.
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