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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 13, 2017 - 10:28am PT
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Problem is a monolithic "wall" is useless. Throughout recorded history that's been proven.
Beyond the insane expense of materials to build this useless thing the real costs are in the constant and YYYUUUGGGEEEE military force you'd need to patrol an expanse of that size. The bricks and mortar are nothing in comparison.
End the entitlements for illegal immigrants, end the war on drugs(I laughed a little bit), end the anchor-baby policies. Remove the policies that bring people here and see what kind of reduction we get after that.
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Norton
Social climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 10:41am PT
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End the entitlements for illegal immigrants
Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:16pm PT
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End the entitlements for illegal immigrants
I can guarantee you that illegal aliens are getting plenty of "free" benefits at every hospital in the region.
But at the end of the day the entire Mexican thing is a distraction to the MIC machine that consumes more resources every hour than every illegal could hope to in a lifetime.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:16pm PT
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MIC machine that consumes more resources every hour than every illegal could hope to in a lifetime.
Well said.
The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:18pm PT
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That dude is a fascist.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:29pm PT
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That dude is a fascist.
Ironic that he is a nice Jewish boy from Santa Monica, and that his parents are Democrats.
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couchmaster
climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:36pm PT
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Is anyone else looking forward to Al Franken running for President in 2020 with Jill Stein as his running mate? Let's call that the Franken-Stein ticket. ...Franken-Stein...? heh ... no? Hmmm, I'll have to talk slower to ya'll. F.r.a.n.k.e.n.-S.t.e.i.n.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:41pm PT
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Interesting recent article in the NY Times about that guy: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/stephen-miller-donald-trump-adviser.html
Former aide to Jeff Sessions (big surprise) and a guy who's emails to other members of Congress were, until recently, considered spam because of their out there content. Now he's writing executive orders and pushing for construction of the wall. This guy couldn't manage an Appleby's, now he's one of the president's two inner most advisors.
Edit: just watched that short clip. "The power of the President will not be questioned". Scary stuff, especially if he believes it. She should go submit his resume to Putin. He already has the oppressionist mindset down.
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couchmaster
climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:47pm PT
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No?
OK, how about Anthony Weiner and Eric Holder running together then?
Weiner-Holder .......not a good slogan ....? Too soon?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:59pm PT
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Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits.
Not true. For decades in California, pregnant women have been crossing the border illegally, ready to pop, going to any general hospital where service cannot legally be denied, having the child (at taxpayer expense), and thus producing an instant citizen. Now we can't deport the mother, who is trivially granted at least a green card if not outright citizenship, and is then a burgeoning welfare family and who then systematically employs longstanding immigration standards to bring over "immediate family," thus increasing the size of the welfare family.
It's been done countless times and is a well-known process for "immigrating." Of course, entirely at taxpayer expense beginning to end.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:05pm PT
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MB, the wife has delivered some of them, still with muddy feet and clutching maps with
directions to every LA County hospital. And because nary a one had any pre-natal care
when they have complications the abogados are there in a flash to sue the county big time.
Now we also have the Chinese maternity homes where they show up with a tourist visa before
they are showing big time and live the next five months.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:07pm PT
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More about Stephen Miller, who apparently wasn't well received on his recent Sunday morning news show rounds. An opinion piece he wrote in the 9th grade (not that long ago for a guy who's only 31): http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/letters/Letters-2002/MARCH_2002/03_27_2002_Political_Correctness_Out_of_Control.htm
Some delightful excerpts from his letter:
After all, the United States has used our soldiers to kill innocent people, and the same Indians that helped the pilgrims were either shot, or put on reservations. I suppose then, that our country would have been better off if our soldiers never killed anyone, and we watched as our nation was obliterated by the evil in the world, as we sung songs of peace and love.
Or, better yet, we could have lived with the Indians, learning how to finger paint and make tepees, excusing their scalping of frontiersmen as part of their culture. Forget about being the nation that stopped Hitler, brought communism to its knees, and feeds more hungry people around the world than any other country -- forget all of that, and let us just agree that we're a horrible nation. Or, we can raise our flags, lift our guns, and proclaim that we are Americans, that we enjoy personal freedoms Islamic nations could only dream about, we are the land of the free, the home of the brave.
Sadly, my school has forgotten all of this. That is why we do nothing for American holidays but everything for Mexican holidays.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:13pm PT
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Couch, yer killin' me!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:14pm PT
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The guy has fed his head with altenative facts.
One of them: America stopped Hitler.
True fact: Russia was the nation who primarily, and without a shade of doubt, stopped Hitler.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:22pm PT
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Reilly, notice how the libs instantly ignore the "little" fact-correction?
It doesn't "resonate" with the echo-chamber, so they play pretend that no such post occurred nor such facts exist.
Also, note that not a single "mainstream media" outlet so much as mentions, much less covers, what is now widely known all over YouTube: the liberal and heinously racist death threats (many by other blacks) against Joy Villa for wearing a MAGA dress to the Grammys. Called a "coon" and worse, she has been subjected to the "best" that the "tolerant" liberals can dish out.
Only Breitbart reports it, but, of course, Breitbart is "fake news." LOL
Liberals really don't want free speech; they want only...
ECHO
Echo
echo
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
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Looks like they had to pull Kelly Ann Conway from TV. She had been the ultimate spin master.
I loved it when she said that Trump will not release his tax returns, despite repeated promises to eventually do so, saying that the people who elected him don't care.
He is now the U.S. President. Not just for those who voted for him.
I have some friends. The wife is from France. They have been here for a long time. I asked her what people in France thought of Trump, and she said they were as freaked out by his rhetoric as we are here.
Ad Hominem attacks, going after little people at 3:00am on Twitter.
His cabinet is filled with rich white guys with no experience.
The anti-Obama crowd, only a few months before the election were going off on his executive actions, claiming that he was short cutting the congress and the constitution. Now Trump has done nothing BUT sign executive order after executive order.
He is proving to be an embarrassment much of the time. Tweeting against Nordstrom's and anyone who criticizes him. He just doesn't have a thick skin, and it shows. We have never seen a president act this childishly.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
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I was thinking that Al Franken may be a potential for the presidential run in 20. But the idea of Franken-Stein ticket is awesomely humorous.
Madboltr, You are right in that the dots haven't been, at least publicly, connected, yet, with regards to "proof" of the campaign/election malfeasance.
Time will tell. Either the bastard will skate, or he will be safeguarded while some others take the hit and end up hung for treason, or god-forbid, although if guilty it will be his just due, he will be tried. But I think he will probably just let that son in law of his go down.
But no matter what, unless that whack job somehow does manage to pull the plane out of the death spiral(as has been hoped for by his party members each and every time he does something despicable), I don't believe he will find a happy life after the White House.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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The Immigrant Round Up has begun
Make sure you got your papers in order, and a fresh copy of your Birth Certificate, other wise, you may be arrested and dropped off in Tijuana.
Maybe some white face can keep in the country for a couple more days.
Immigration Agents Arrest 600 People Across U.S. in One Week
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/nyregion/immigration-arrests-sanctuary-city.html?_r=0
President Trump proclaimed on Twitter early Sunday morning: “The crackdown on illegal criminals is merely the keeping of my campaign promise. Gang members, drug dealers & others are being removed!”
and if you listen to the MadBarker, This is All the Libs Fault!!!!
we didn't blah blah blah Hillary blah turd blah
how many thousands of words has he wasted on Hillary and the what he calls the loser libs
give it break
It's not the Libs Fault
ALL of This rest solely on the Trump Voters
They voted for him
They made him President
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:43pm PT
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Your "echo" chamber is the vast majority of voters. But go ahead, overreach, ignore facts and sh#t.
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:43pm PT
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Reilly, notice how the libs instantly ignore the "little" fact-correction?
While the first part of your "correction" was likely true, the rest wasn't. Being an illegal mom of a US citizen child does not qualify anyone for a green card, never mind getting one trivially. Of the public benefits listed in the original post, none are available to illegal immigrants.
More importantly, which party has proposed doing anything about this purported problem? NEITHER! What has Trump proposed? NOTHING!
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