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Craig Fry
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So Cal.
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Jul 16, 2016 - 07:33am PT
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Mike Pence: Sarah Palin Without The Charisma
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/mike-pence-sarah-palin_b_11003128.html
One source who used to work as a senior staff member in the House of Representatives told me, “Pence, smart? I used to eat salads at the Rayburn cafeteria that had more brains than Mike Pence.”
That certainly fits Mike Pence.
Mike Pence who, in 2001, still was seriously trying to claim that cigarette smoking wouldn’t kill you, writing “Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.”
Mike Pence who, just last year, looked like a deer in headlights on television, when asked to explain a law he just signed. He was completely unable to tell George Stephanopoulos if the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (Reminder: a bill he just signed) would allow bakers and florists to refuse service to same-sex couples being married. The performance was widely mocked, and thought to be the end of his Presidential ambitions.
Mike Pence who, when asked if he believes in evolution, had to repeat the question, before giving a nonsensical response.
Mike Pence who either didn’t read, or didn’t understand, that he signed a law that requires women to bury or cremate their periods, if they contain a fertilized egg, leading to the Periods for Pence movement.
It isn’t so much that Mike Pence is a lightweight in the brains department.
It’s that Mike Pence is a lightweight in the brains department, and also ridiculously incompetent.
Mike Pence also once decided to start spending resources to develop a state-controlled news service, which would feed the media with prewritten stories, and be the one to break “news” (read: “propaganda”) about his administration. When confronted with the fact that it was, well, kind of Soviet, Pence decided to stop developing the news service.
How bad is his reputation in the state? Republicans want Pence out of Indiana. Reported CNN, “[Trump picking Pence] also makes for a good fit for Indiana Republicans, who are ready for Pence to go after a tumultuous first term in Indiana that has opened up a chance for Democrats to claim the governor’s office.”
Oh, the title of that piece? “Indiana GOP to Trump: Take Mike Pence, Please!”
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 16, 2016 - 07:40am PT
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Hands appear to be about the same size as T. One nail polished? Code sign for evangelical catholic?
One of the more publicly shared accounts of Pence’s transition from a Catholic youth minister who wanted to be a priest to an evangelical megachurch member came in 1994. That’s when he told the Indianapolis Business Journal about an intense period of religious searching that he underwent in college. “I made a commitment to Christ,” Pence said, speaking of the late 1970s. “I’m a born-again, evangelical Catholic.”
"Trump's abrasive, Know Nothing-like nativist rhetoric has blocked out sober discourse about how to tackle America's big challenges."
-not Ms. Ginsburg
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 16, 2016 - 10:50am PT
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Trump, running as the anti-establishment candidate, decided he needed an establishment veep for street cred. Makes total sense now, Trump is a faker.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2016 - 10:56am PT
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Anybody Trump picked, you jackels would shred. And that's fine.
So Pence's biggest crimes are that he served in Senate (establishment) and he's a staunch Christian (bigot, racist, or something?).
Seems fine by my standards. As long as he's #2. With Trump as the exec, Pence will do just fine as a VP.
Woot!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 16, 2016 - 11:27am PT
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Yeah, Pence served in the House, barely. Functioned more as an obstructionist.
An examination of Pence's legislative record during 12 years in the House reveals scant tangible achievements, instead pointing to a tenure marked by a desire to move the Republican Party and national debate in a conservative direction.
Of 90 standalone bills introduced by Pence during his tenure in the House, the 21 that passed were all "simple resolutions" about matters like placing a member on a committee or rebuking the United Nations, according to the legislative tracker GovTrack. Apart from those, just one Pence bill cleared committee, and then died—a 2005 bill to scrap limits on aggregate campaign contributions by a person in an election cycle. Pence voted against numerous major Bush-era initiatives such as No Child Left Behind in 2001, the Medicare prescription drug benefit in 2003 (which passed by one vote) and the bank bailout of 2008.
"It's not as if he was a legislator who did more than take strong positions against these things," said Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. "This was a guy who saw his role much more as being a super-magnet trying to pull his party and policy away from the center and toward the right."
Fittingly, the largest contributor to his campaigns and political committees from 1989 to 2014 was Club For Growth, a conservative group that often battles bipartisan deals, according to the nonpartisan Center For Responsive Politics. Pence may build bridges between Trump and conservative donors wary of his ideological bona fides.
Pence also gives some Republicans skeptical of Trump a dash of hope that he'd be able to steer the presumptive nominee in a more conservative direction. "I hope that he can move Mr. Trump on a number of these issues," said Flake.
But that doesn't mean he'd be the ideal figure to help Trump cut deals.
"The idea that Pence is going to be an effective liaison with Congress—he knows Congress, but he's not going to be the Republican equivalent of Joe Biden," said Ornstein. "He's not a dealmaker. That's not his modus operandi."
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2016 - 06:46pm PT
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The rollout of Pence today was one of most bizarre episodes in political history. I really think Trump was on LSD. He came out to introduce Pence, then proceeded to ramble on incoherently about himself for 30 minutes. He finally got around to mentioning the unfortunate fellow and then left. Weird.
Yeah, I watched it live. Was pretty good. He didn't ramble on about himself, that's disengenuous.
He did rail about what he was planning for the country. Things he would do to fix broken systems of governance. And it was pretty good.
He pre-ambled it into how awesome Mike was in Indiana and how, as a team, they would....wait for it...#MAGA
It was o.k.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 16, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
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LOf*#kingL
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 16, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
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Just sayin', butt Trump apparently can sheeit and tweet at the same time. That's where he produces some of his 'best' work, according to Christie who was in changing the TP.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2016 - 07:27pm PT
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That dude actually looks like Christie. More shocking? I can actually Christie in that exact pose.
You gotta admit, Trump is starting to look very good. I know it drives some people crazy because he's not a radical Dem.
But, he has moderated his tone somewhat, more refined now. The more he speaks like he has been, the better.
As an ever skeptical conservative, I wait for action based on promises. I just want people to do what they were elected for.
I know it's a lot to ask, but this is the over-arching problem isn't it? We elect people that change after their elected. Trump can not do that, and I think this is part of his brilliance.
Regarding 'the Wall', he HAS TO DO IT if he's elected? He wants it too, but he has framed his candidacy on that wall being built. If anybody stands in that way they will be counter to 'the will of the people' and the president elect.
F*#king brilliant.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jul 16, 2016 - 07:33pm PT
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Actually, he's looking and sounding more crazy by the day, a feat in itself. Just the bizarre, impulsive, narcissistic routine he did today should disqualify him from being president.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 16, 2016 - 08:04pm PT
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bluring, brilliant assessment
Never leave ST, you are an invaluable resource of what the other side thinks
[Click to View YouTube Video]
This may be one of the best Afro Beat pieces ever!
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2016 - 08:33pm PT
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But, he has moderated his tone somewhat, more refined now. The more he speaks like he has been, the better.
Bullsh#t. He's still a dick and a racist. You can only polish a turd so much.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
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Please tell us again how the moon landing was faked.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2016 - 09:35pm PT
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Dirtbag, you have seen disparaging pics of me. I have pics of here of people with aluminum male-appendages in my mouth.
Is that who you think I am>?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 16, 2016 - 09:36pm PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2016 - 09:58pm PT
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Did you see that photo of Trump kissing that girl back in 1992?
Ohh!!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2016 - 10:39pm PT
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"you don't need a ticket, ya just thank the Lord"
Look at Rod Stewart smile when he says that. Never saw that side of him, or even Jeff Beck.
Never knew they were that spiritual. I think it came later in life to them, just like most of us.
I had it for a along time and abandoned it. I walked away.
Amazing when it comes back. It was always there, just kicked aside for other things. But it's always there.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Jul 16, 2016 - 11:08pm PT
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not sure which is dumber...
republicans who plan to vote for the unabashed self-absorption, the willful ignorance and the intrinsic chaos that are three of the defining characteristics of monsieur trump [and that make a quote like that purported to have come from 1998 believable]...
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dems who continue to distribute a repeatedly debunked quote about dumb republicans...
i suppose, at least it's a sort of poetic reflection of the state of things as a whole...
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