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jonnyrig

climber
Jul 10, 2016 - 09:20pm PT
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/11/newser-beaver-kills-man/2074145/

A fisherman in Belarus was bitten to death by a beaver, and all he was doing was trying to take its picture, Sky News reports. The man spotted the beaver while fishing with friends at Lake Shestakov, but as he approached to take a photograph, the beaver bit him on the thigh. The animal managed to sever an artery, and his friends couldn't stop the blood flow.

Probably not the first injury sustained by man over a beaver shot.

The majority of the 160 incidents (90 [56.3%]) ended on the shooter’s initiative—
sometimes when the shooter committed suicide or stopped shooting, and other times when
the shooter fled the scene.
There were at least 25 incidents where the shooter fled the scene before police arrived. In 4
additional incidents, at least 5 shooters fled the scene and were still at large at the time the
study results were released.

The cops don't stop shootings as often as you'd like. What's the criteria that determines a mass shooting? 4 victims or more? Kind of a low bar.

The individuals involved in these shootings included a citizen with a valid firearms
permit and armed security guards at a church, an airline counter, a federally
managed museum, and a school board meeting.25

Not cops. *Gasp!* a CCW holder!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 10, 2016 - 09:23pm PT
Ukrainians are notoriosly indiscrimnant when it comes to lap dances.
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
Jul 10, 2016 - 10:12pm PT
jonnyrig

climber
Jul 10, 2016 - 11:15pm PT
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/animals-can-be-giant-jerks/
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Jul 11, 2016 - 01:20am PT
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madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 11, 2016 - 07:48am PT
I guess cute only goes so far.

The world is chock full of evil.

Our cat is soooo cutie, right up until the moment that she smites some poor, hapless bug (she's not any good with larger prey).

I would imagine a charging otter to be quite formidable. .357 minimum! Maybe .44 or even .50. Take no chances.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jul 11, 2016 - 09:20am PT
I had to release one from a foothold trap 2 years ago (I had already trapped my maximum 2 otter that year) and let me tell you what, he was open for business. If you've ever skinned one, you know they are made from ripcord and steel.

The preferred method for releasing an otter is far different than you would any other critter. You can't use a catch pole (dog catchers tool) because their necks are so strong and have so many blood vessels that a catch pole would damage and injure them. So its a much more sporty procedure.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 11, 2016 - 09:35am PT
much more sporty procedure

ROFL

I don't want to try to imagine. :-)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 11, 2016 - 09:50am PT
I wouldn't think that even kevlar welding gloves would serve for that job.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 11, 2016 - 09:54am PT
I think that what Esco isn't telling us about the "preferred method" is that it involves letting the enraged beast viciously chew on one appendage while you use any unoccupied appendage(s) to set the furball of fury free.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jul 11, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
I think the gun you want for that job is a tranquilizer gun.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jul 11, 2016 - 12:33pm PT
It turns out that Otter are a lot like most internet tough guys apparently.

They have an extremely sensitive snout, almost like the proverbial glass jaw. If you give them a tap on the snout it knocks them loopy and gives you enough time to release the trap and let them scurry away.

Or in my case, it allows you to run back to the boat and jump back in while squealing like a little girl.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 11, 2016 - 04:18pm PT
run back... squealing like a little girl

I'm with you.

That is my "preferred method" for just about any situation you can think of.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Jul 11, 2016 - 04:48pm PT
Yeah, anything in that weasel family is gonna tear you to pieces if you get too close. They have such high metabolic rates we don't stand a chance. Just be glad they don't carry pistols.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jul 11, 2016 - 04:49pm PT
Toker V, what would you recommend for home defense and concealed carry that also would be fun to use at the range
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jul 11, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
May I suggest the 2106 African Princess model -

ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jul 11, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
May I suggest the 2106 African Princess model -

you may suggest, but I will decline for being too fat, too frumpy

Toker, you're my only hope here. I need to be packing heat.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 11, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
Jim, Jim, this isn't the gun-control debate thread. You can find that one (at present) here:

This thread is about folks that want to talk about guns in a positive sense. You know, their legitimate uses, not the RARE cases in which they are misused, you know, as are cars, chain saws, knives, fire, hammers, alcohol (please use responsibly, lol), and so on. Not everybody is responsible with any implement.

But most are. We're talking about those folks here.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 11, 2016 - 06:21pm PT
Otters "feel" more scary to me now than ever before.

The animal then launched a sudden and unprovoked attack.

Thank you for raising awareness, Escopeta. Wow. Who knew?

Yeah, at least .357!
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 11, 2016 - 06:33pm PT
I have no issues with gun ownership and the myriad usefulness of lead projectiles.

My brother, no doubt what we need are more guns, not less. They are tools of many uses.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-double-shooting-boyle-heights-20160711-snap-story.html

One man was killed and another man was injured Monday afternoon in a shooting in Boyle Heights, police said.

The sound of gunshots was reported just before 4 p.m. in the 900 block of South Bernal Avenue, a residential street sandwiched between the 60 and 5 freeways, Los Angeles police Officer Rosario Herrera said.

Officers arrived and found the two men. One was pronounced dead at the scene. His name was not released pending notification of his family.
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