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JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 25, 2015 - 12:20pm PT
it's just tribal resentment politics

Are you saying that sort of politics exists in just the Republican party?

(I do like "T-rump," by the way, even if "Chump" is perhaps as accurate a representation of him.)

John
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 25, 2015 - 12:47pm PT
I find it really amazing what Trump has been able to do. He is holding in the polls, and far more importantly, he appears to have swallowed up the free media, wholesale.

Those candidates who have to get their image and message out to the wide electorate, cannot, unless they spend precious dollars to do so.

In addition, he has basically put a hit on some, like Walker:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/scott-walker-falls-flat-on-his-face/2015/08/24/5bb3b486-4a93-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html?hpid=z4

Attempting to out-conservative Trump is folly — even if the guy is a former liberal who nakedly reinvented himself for this campaign. Trump, if he is thinking about anything, is not thinking about preserving his electability should he somehow win the Republican nomination. He is taking the most conservative positions possible on a range of issues — and otherwise viable contenders are doing themselves damage by trying to match him.

Nobody has been hurt by Trump more than Walker, who has seen his support drop nearly in half in the last month, to single digits. After his flat performance in the debate, he lost his longtime lead in Iowa. His donors and supporters are jittery, and, as my Post colleagues Jenna Johnson and Sean Sullivan reported last week, he tried to reassure them with a vow to emphasize his conservatism with more passion.

That could explain the birthright-citizenship fiasco. A day after Trump declared his opposition to granting automatic citizenship to those born on American soil, Walker embraced the same position, only to jettison it six days later.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 25, 2015 - 01:02pm PT
It's like I'm having a f*#king Trump nightmare, except I'm awake.....


But it is kinda fun watching the other GOP Keystone Cops spin out trying to get attention away from Captain Loudmouth.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 25, 2015 - 01:02pm PT
Are you saying that sort of politics exists in just the Republican party?

No, but I am saying it is the dominant factor in the Republican party, while present but to a negligible extent in the other major party. The nutjob contingent within the GOP is close to 50%.

(I arrive at this 50% number as follows: Based on about 49/51 GOP/DEM split based on popular vote totals over the last 15 years, and a consistent 27% of national voters who always support whatever the right wing extremist meme of the day might happen to be...birthers, T-Rump supporters, etc...throw out any crazy sh#t, like that guy wanting to issue hunting permits to shoot people crossing the border, and it almost always gets 27% in favor, and you know the vast, vast majority of those crazies make up the GOP base.)
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 25, 2015 - 01:13pm PT
Trump is sort of like the singularity which has finally formed under the collapsed weight of a dedicated fifty year campaign of based on fear.

It started out as a way to swing white southern democrats to the gop and instead of dying once that was accomplished in instead became how the gop did business. The problem is people crave novelty and that has forced the gop to consistently up the both the volume and the rhetoric.

The result? The over-stretched hyperbole and clownish bombast which now defines the gop primary. You have to pander to an ever-lower common denominator to stand out from the herd and all the ideas are rooted in the basest fears of an uneducated, 50 year-old, white male. Demonization is the letter of the day and if you aren't a victim wallowing in self-pity then you just aren't seeing things straight.

I'm guessing by the time the 2020 gop primary rolls around, their town hall meetings will be a near pentecostal experience replete with snakes and glossolalia (but then I guess the latter is already happening).
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Aug 25, 2015 - 01:52pm PT
Wait, so you guys don't want him to win just for the pure entertainment value?


Not even a little!?
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 25, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
I still think he is performing a World's Greatest April Fools joke on America

He just says anything he can think of that's purely despicable and sees how long they will let him go on and how many suckers he can swoop up along the way.

Before the election he will expose the Republican base as the most stupid humans on the planet, saying "you have to be Hitler youth to agree with the crap I was spewing, I intentionally said the worst things I could think of and you guys gobbled it up like it was candy, you should be ashamed of yourselves"


There is No way the Republican Party will allow him to be their Presidential pick, they will do something to make sure that he gets the boot or has a "Terrible Accident".
We all know that the upper GOP operatives are capable of any dirty deed necessary.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Aug 25, 2015 - 02:17pm PT
I had to look this one up

Glossolalia or (speaking in tongues) is the fluid vocalizing of speech-like syllables that lack any readily comprehended meaning, in some cases as part of religious practice. Some consider it as a part of a sacred language.
Glossolalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlossolaliaWikipedia


The GOP's words are individually comprehensible, but any given sequence of them (i.e. any statement) sounds like demented gibberish to me. So, I guess that is a form of glossolalia.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 25, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
Gibberish knows no party

JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 25, 2015 - 02:51pm PT
I still think he is performing a World Class April Fools joke on America

Craig, you and I agree on that one.

El Cap, we obviously disagree on the identity of the party or parties resorting to "tribal resentment politics." The attacks on the unidentified "rich" employed by the Democrats form the basis of their current existence.

John
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 25, 2015 - 02:58pm PT
Please read the article.








http://www.salon.com/2015/08/25/confederate_fantasies_the_donald_trump_surge_inside_the_dangerous_southern_mythology_creeping_into_the_gop_primary/
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 25, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
Abortion is Now the Hot issue of 2015.

Ohio (with the approval of Gov. John Kasich) will ban abortions on Down's Syndrome fetuses.
So if you have a regular fetus, you may be able to have an abortion, but if the tests say the fetus has Down's Syndrome, you must have the child or Go to Jail.
Sick, what happened to keeping the Gov. out of your personal life?

But just as bad as a total ban on abortions with no exceptions for rape or incest.

Now we have to shut down the Government to stop the Baby parts factory (Planned Parenthood) which happens to be based on total lies perpetuated by these lying liars just to pull on the heart strings of the cultists.


Ted Cruz Plots Government Shutdown Fight Over Planned Parenthood

He said both parties want "an empty show vote" on defunding the family planning provider.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-government-shutdown-planned-parenthood_55dcd12de4b08cd3359db3af?utm_hp_ref=politics&kvcommref=mostpopular

Posted: 08/25/2015

Washington -- Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) thinks Republican leaders are bluffing when they say they want to defund Planned Parenthood, so he is enlisting Christian pastors across the nation to help mobilize voters to force his colleagues' hands and threaten a government shutdown.

Cruz implored more than a thousand pastors and religious leaders on Tuesday to "preach from the pulpit" against Planned Parenthood and rally public support for an amendment defunding the family provider in the must-pass federal budget bill in November. If Congress attaches the defunding amendment to the budget instead of holding a vote on the standalone bill, it cannot keep funding Planned Parenthood without shutting down the whole federal government.


Yes, shut er down, that will send a vital message that you mean Business..
and show us how insane you are and that you should never hold an public servant office again since you seem to have no idea of what your job is as a Senator.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 25, 2015 - 03:45pm PT
Yup. There's Politards that say they will shut down the Government over this - for sure.

If the ideologues shut down the Government, Trump wins. He's the anti machine ideologue.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 25, 2015 - 03:50pm PT
The GOP Platform

Women.. in the crosshairs
Latinos.. go back to Mexico, if you don't; we will lock you up and drop you off in Tijuana if you live through the torturous detention
Blacks.. sit down and SHUT Up
Gays. go back into the closet .. we will fight you because we don't like you, er' the bible ses so.
Muslims. we are at war with you

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Aug 25, 2015 - 04:01pm PT
Trump is a high-energy person.

He could fix our bridges.
Undocumented immigrants will be gone so fast.


"I love the bible." -trump
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 25, 2015 - 04:03pm PT
Gays, blacks, hispanics, abortion, guns and guberment.

It's a pretty limited and rotating palette which is why, fifty years later, the only solution is to turn the volume up to shrill.
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 25, 2015 - 04:21pm PT
Well, I never thought I'd be saying this, but I think Trump is turning out to be very good for politics in the U.S.

Not just hedge (funding) my bets.

President? I think not.

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 25, 2015 - 04:35pm PT
He's certainly blurring the line between politics and entertainment. The top story tonight, on both the CBS Evening News and the following show, Entertainment Tonight, was exactly the same. Trumps Megan Kelly tweets.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Aug 25, 2015 - 04:55pm PT
Poor Jorge Ramos!

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzSUx-eLDc
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 25, 2015 - 04:56pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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