Ebola Outbreak Summer 2014

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Guernica

climber

dark places

Oct 12, 2014 - 10:53pm PT

I'm with Elon Musk on this one... we need to establish ourselves in space or it's game over, one way or another.

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Oct 12, 2014 - 11:07pm PT

But instead of urging the public to enhance their immune function and boost their natural defenses against Ebola, everyone is ridiculously told to "wash your hands" and wait around for a drug company to introduce an Ebola vaccine.

Thank God! So good to know that I can abandon all that silly handwashing I've had do do between patients for decades....... All those children, foolishly taught to wash their hands before meals.

yep, I'm so interested in seeing those studies that demonstrate the protective effect of vitamins in protecting against Ebola.

I believe this falls into the category of "natural selection".

TomCochrane

Trad climber

Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay

Oct 12, 2014 - 11:24pm PT

There is no doubt the media is CONTROLLED. There are six corporations involved.

Read The Israel Lobby by Mearsheimer and Walt as it outlines just how powerful AIPAC is.

The MSM is involved in deceit, deception, lies, and propaganda. Goebbels would be impressed!

The populace is subject to MIND CONTROL. It is not like the movie entitled The Manchurian Candidate. It is not a psychotic drug with robotic behaviour. Rather it is thinking in a particular way so that the citizens think no other way.

It leads to GROUP THINK in which many have give up common sense and thinking for one's self. It is necessary to use good critical thinking skills to determine just what is happening in our world.

Many don't know that they don't know AND don't seem to want to know otherwise!! It will be to their chagrin eventually. The Ebola pandemic may cause many to try untested vaccinations in hoping to survive when colloidal silver and vitamin C (gel caps) would be sufficient to over come this dreadful situation.

Read The Hot Zone to gain some understanding about Ebola. Stephen King though the story was the most horrifying/terrifying thing he had ever read.

Presenting information to counteract the media and we are confronted by COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. Many find it unacceptable because they have been brainwashed!

Many ideas have been presented through the years only to be rejected OUTRIGHT. Over time it eventually becomes accepted. Later many wonder why it was never accepted in the first place. Galileo is an example of this.

Many have the notion that the Gates Foundation is doing much good in our world. It is not. It is testing many young people in India and has since come under much scrutiny for bringing agony, pain and suffering to many. Some would consider this to be a crime against humanity. Nobody in North America is aware of the awful things happening to the young in India. Read health sites relating to this.

It is critical that ALL OF US become INFORMED about what is really going on in our world. There is indeed a dark evil sinister group at work in our world to do great harm to many.

See the article by Dr. Cyril Broderick about Ebola. He was at one time a professor at the University of Liberia.

Find the TRUTH as it is important.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39870.htm

Bought Journalism: How Politicians, Intelligence and High Finance Control Mass Media

Dr Udo Ulfkotte, German journalist speaks out.

Posted October 05, 2014

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Oct 13, 2014 - 06:26am PT

Complete and utter rubbish. Vitamin D and colloidal silver? Right. What is happening is there is are supplement marketers who think this is the new gold rush and are whipping up innuendo, pseudo-science, and just plain 19th century tar-oil hucksterism to new heights for a buck.

And Dr. Cyril Broderick? He is a associate professor of plant physiology and neither he nor his university have any experience or involvement with Ebola. Pure, unadulterated bullsh#t. Crikey, dudes, get the friggin' pitchforks out of the pond.

I'm with Elon Musk on this one... we need to establish ourselves in space or it's game over, one way or another.

Technological wishful thinking. We are composite organisms where only 1/10th of our total cell count is 'human'. We are wholly a product of, and inseparable from, this planet's current ecology. Want to know how 'establish ourselves in space' will turn out on the scale of decades away from the Earth? Load up your refrigerator with food, unplug it, and come back in a month and you'll have a pretty good simulation of the potential of long term space habitation. Hell, we can't even hermetically seal a box on Earth with people inside for more than a few days before the whole thing goes tits up.

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Oct 13, 2014 - 09:28am PT

Death and Texas. All ya gotta worry 'bout. :0)

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

Oct 13, 2014 - 09:38am PT

The article said a breach in protocol was the cause of infection...She probably had a depressed immune system and hadn't been popping her vitamin D supplements or coilodial silver...? I prefer a wheat grass enema to stimulate my system...

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Oct 13, 2014 - 09:59am PT

The wife couldn't sleep last night and got up and rather unadvisedly read
this thread. First thing she said this morning was

"are those guys for real?"

Of course she wasn't referring to Doctor RJ.

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Oct 13, 2014 - 10:02am PT

So, what did you tell her then, Reilly?

Are we all just a conspiracy theory waiting to reveal itself?

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Oct 13, 2014 - 10:05am PT

Mouse, she wanted me to post the job opening for an infectious disease specialist
at her hospital but when I asked her if they cared whether applicants could
communicate like adults she said, "Never mind."

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

Oct 13, 2014 - 10:06am PT

Reilly...Most people can't and won't recognize genious...Your wife is the exception...Keeping it real..rj

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Oct 13, 2014 - 01:35pm PT

Say, Ken, how many doses of vaccine have you administered in your life, seeing as a child today requires some 40 doses of some 14 vaccines vaccines, by age 16?

I'm sure it is in the hundreds of thousands. I can't recall a single serious reaction.

I've also taken care of many adult patients who had post-polio syndrome, which varied from minor to heartbreaking. Quite unusual as I reached the end of my practice.

But I never saw a case of polio.

I never saw a case of tetanus. Now there is an interesting bug. Found around us everywhere. Very few infections occur in the US, BUT have a high fatality rate like Ebola, with all our technology (42% over the age of 50)

In 1947 through 1949, before widespread use of the vaccine, an average of 580 cases of tetanus and an average of 472 deaths from tetanus were reported

Unlike Ebola, there is no herd immunity for tetanus.

stevep

Boulder climber

Salt Lake, UT

Oct 13, 2014 - 01:55pm PT

Or take Rabies. Effectively a 100% mortality rate, much worse than Ebola. And the symptoms are even more horrifying.

If you're bitten by a rabies infected animal and you become symptomatic, you're dead. There is only 1 recorded case of survival (oddly enough, an MD I work with was on that team).

But if you get the vaccine before symptoms appear, pretty much no worries. You will live and be fine.

But I'm sure that's just a bunch of media driven conspiracy.

steveA

Trad climber

Wolfeboro, NH

Oct 13, 2014 - 03:40pm PT

stevep,

My brother died from rabies. He was bitten by a brown bat, but didn't come down with symptoms until years later. Apparently the virus can remain dormant in your system for years, in rare cases.

John M

climber

Oct 13, 2014 - 03:50pm PT

Death and Texas. All ya gotta worry 'bout. :0)

now that was funny.

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Oct 13, 2014 - 05:03pm PT

and now, another patient.....

bergbryce

climber

East Bay, CA

Oct 13, 2014 - 06:07pm PT

I read a great piece today about how anti-government positions are crippling the nation's ability to respond to a disease like ebola.

Also highlights the ineptness of Texas state public health agencies and how they handled patient 0 and how the containment was completely botched. Texas says handling that scene and their family members are the responsibility of the family. Then there was no cleanup for days, the family was kept quarantined in an apartment potentially swimming with the virus. When a cleanup team did arrive they brought no bleach to kill the virus, but they did have a power washer to potentially spread it everywhere. Seems like a very Texas-like reaction. Use a power washer when buckets, brushes and bleach and a large team with appropriate supervision are the appropriate solution.

It's all good, Cruz and Governor "Oops" are on it!

I read "The Hot Zone" per someone on this forums suggestion earlier this summer. Comparing how the virus is treated in that book, which took place in the 1980s, and modern day Texas, Texas is looking about as sophisticated as Western Africa. Actually, I don't think that state deserves that much credit.