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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 23, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
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I was in the meadows last week.
My thoughts on the drive both in and out through a completely fuel choked and unhealthy forest was that we've passed from the politically correct to the criminally negligent in the management of our forests.
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John M
climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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Thank you to everyone who is posting maps. My computer literacy is lacking so I appreciate what you are doing.
Here is a link to a video of the 1961 Harlow fire that burned from Stumpfield mountain in Mariposa county right up to Oakhurst. It burned 20,000 acres in 2 hours. It burned so fast that trees would be burnt on one side and green on the other. There are some incredible stories in the video.
http://firewisemaderacounty.org/the-1961-harlow-fire-mariposa-county/
I found it on another forum.
http://yosemitenews.info/forum/list.php?3
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
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This seems like the easiest way to get fire maps: http://wildlandfire.maps.arcgis.com/home/
Click: Current U.S. Wildland Fires
Apparently the bay area has lost some electrical power due to the fire and has put out a warning.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:45am PT
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hey there say, all... i can't get that link to work... apparently it takes
you to another link...
and well, dial up is just not doing anything tonight, just stuck,
everywhere and no links to any info are working, :(
night all..
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:06am PT
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Compare these two maps, if you are unclear about the fire's exact location and the locations of places people have been mentioning. they are NOT ORIENTED in the same direction, but it's the best a mouse can do. neebee, here's a simple map for those with no intimate knowledge of the fire's area. It's made for tourism, to entice potential buyers.
Notice the three x marks. The orange x is Khanom's, Denise's ma lives up north from there in the cluster of streets, looking like what it is, a subdivision in the hills. Denise's house, which she no longer occupies, being occupied with the Rev, is in the furthest right group of streets on the south side of Ferretti Rd., before it intersects with Hwy 120 on the east end.
She and the Rev live on Manzanita Way, where the green x marks it.
Bill and Lauren and ANDY Nickell and the Sunset Inn B & B live at the small red x, approximately.
The fire's burning in the boxes at the top of this map, and it also is burning in the lands west of them and north of them and under the boxes on the right side, which is in YNP.
That help?
The small scales of the fire maps, compared to this size, are confusing if you don't have context. That is how Google Earth works.
This is brought to you by musmiddleearth.sage/wow-this-is-a-revoltin-development/all-fake.stfu
The Nickell's daughter, Amy, I believe her name is, having met her as an sdult only one time, lives on the north side just on Ferretti Rd., between Denise's house and 120, closer to Sunset Inn.
What slays me is that when the Rev and I visited Khanom's farm a couple of weeks ago, the next day we drove into Groveland from the east end of Ferretti Rd., where there is a VERY STEEP road leading down to a bridge on the river at a spot called Lumsden, a starting point for river trips, and it's, pardon, probably WAS a beauty of a place, with great fishing, too.
As we drove in along Ferretti, the view expanded when the road came near to the drop to the river and the northern Yosemite peaks, Conness and all, were RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF US! I'd never been on that section of Ferretti after the turn-off to Lumsden, ever. I like to think I could go out there and take photos this winter, when the snow covers some of the damage, but it will be a sad, sad journey, I am sure...DANG!
I spent most of this afternoon out in the hills north of Merced and have pictures of the pyroculmulus cloud rising and collapsing and then rising again.
I'll be posting them up shortly on The Flames thread, in order to save this thread from invasion by mice. You guys have enough problems.
"I just said, 'Good luck.'"--Bob's 115th Dream
And that goe for you, neebee, with your internest problems, too.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 24, 2013 - 10:31am PT
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prolly called "rim" fire because the starting point was just about visible from that big view pullout on 120 called "rim of the world"
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
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Another amazing image showing the scale of the Rim Fire in comparison to the American Fire:
Here's a picture of the American Fire plume north of our place in Camino, scary stuff:
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
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hey there say, mouse!!! mouse you are wonderful ... i been trying to do and see this myself, and i can't :(
no maps will load and if they do , they get stuck and i can't move them...
:(
this is exactly what i wanted and needed :)
thank you so very much... :)
will go back and take a longer look, now that i posted for you
to thank you, can you enlarge it just a tad? or will it not cover
all the 'so called bases' ... you could put the larger one
in THE FLAMES... then... I CAN see the 'x's okay though...
just wanted to see the printing of words better, but i will ]
zoom my browser, too...
god bless..
khanom, i did not backtrack yet, HOW are you and girlfriend doing there
with the ranch???
earlier, i had heard the sunset inn was still okay, is it
STILL okay now? and the evergreen, too??
(my brother matt's, place, as chappy mentioned, is questionable)
thanks all...
edit:
mouse, WHERE IS sawmill mt road , on that map??
is it shown??
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
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hey there say, mouse... i just did the click-to-enlarge on teh map,
and it worked...
:)
edit:
so from seeing this, then:
evergreen lodge, and sawmill mt
are UNDER the boxes and can't be seen?
RE-EDIT:
okay, WAIT.... I SEE evergreen and most likely the lodge area
on the edge of yosemite now, just UNDER one of the boxes...
and i see a VERY VERY blurry word, at the far WEST END of
old yosemite road, does THAT say sawmill rd?? or not???
can't see where else it runs to?? if it does...
edit:
so khanom, then, i was perhaps right the first time, when i thought
it was hidden by the boxes, on mouse's map...
i will try to find it and see how far it run...
thanks!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 24, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
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hey there say, khanom... thank you so much for sharing...
say, where is THIS... sawmill mt...
i am just guessing, at this point...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 24, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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hey there say, khanom... GLAD you are safe and sound!! :)
say,
if matt has not left groveland, with his horse, for somewheres... you may just run into him...
check out nita's picture, again...
if you do, let him know i been 'with him in spirit' and praying, through all
this >:D< and send my love...
SAY folks not sure if these are even worth reading, if hype, if
good info, or what, etc... but:
i cannot read anything anywhere, :( and browser never work again, :(
even opera... :(
but the taco works, so i posting these here to see if it will work for me to read from here... if not, perhaps some of you can read them and put in quotes ANYTHING that is worthy and worth knowing as to fire info:
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/08/24/2648144/despite-rim-fire-yosemite-valley.html
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/08/23/rim-fire-rages-out-of-control-into-yosemite-100000-acres-burned/
http://www.montereyherald.com/ci_23928253/rim-fire-hits-yosemite-friday-and-explodes-one
well, i got to read two of them, but you know:
you ALL are providing much better, ;)
:)
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 24, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
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The MODIS fire map as of 20 minutes ago.
The red and orange squares are active within last 24 hours.
I've added Pins for Hardin Flat Rd and Sawmill Mt Rd.
Tuolumne City is just to the left of the picture.
108 crosses the top left corner
Hetch Hetchy dam is just at the campground symbol near the upper east front of the fire.
Camp Mather is at or near the campground symbol at the lower east front of the fire.
Pine Mt lake is the lake just at the left edge of the image, below center
Groveland is about 5 miles west of the fire just beyond the left side of image.
From the last Inciweb report, about 11:15
The very high potential for long range spotting however remains a significant concern for fire to advance beyond the retardant lines and allow for fire spread into the communities of Tuolumne City, Twain Harte and Long Barn.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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hey there say, high travere, wow, thank you...
got to go babysit now, the little boy is here...
:)
thank you all at supertopo, for sharing all you know,
and from the 'near front' lines, as to khanom and all...
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
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the fire is now in position where it could run up two major drainages, north fork of the tuolumne and the clavey.
deep canyons like n fork can work like chimneys-- that was how this thing blew up so dramatically a few days back. one potential scenario is that n fork blows up-- then you can have spotting anywhere, which would suck resources away from folks out on the various lines as well as clustering air support.
fingers crossed here.
this site is now aggregating some of the useful links:
http://www.mtdiablocam.com/activefires.htm
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
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if there was any doubt about the situation, here's a sign:
the wal-mart in sonora just closed.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
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That should help. It's from the DeLorme California Atlas & Gazeteer.
"Gazeteer long and hard, she's a naughty hottie."
Sawmill Mtn. Rd. is shown.
This is just awful. Horrendous. The shits. There are some pics showing on The Flames, but I need to go help the Simon Brothers deal with a dead battery, so I gotta split.
Enjoy. Everyone loves a good cry.
When I spoke on the phone a while ago with the Rev, he said yesterday was spent helping the Nickells move their cargo down to a house they've scored in Big Oak Flat. They're all fine, but the Inn is going down, the way this is looking.
I'm sure they rescued Lauren's chickens, somehow. Eggs Ackley how, I can only guess, but I'd consider BARBECUING THEM!
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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Having hiked and played all up and down these drainages, I concur, it's some steep shizznit. I'm at a loss for words and feel like my childhood home is burning down. The one you think, maybe, that you can return too. Some of the best days of my life have been spent lolling in the sun at the Clavey.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
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awww Michelle, must be tough seeing this all.
I've gotten two things out of this:
I'd never heard of the Clavey. And a greater appreciation for the fire risk in the canyon that falls away from my back deck.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
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Aug 24, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
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HT, the Clavey is a great kayaking stream, and I believe where Walt Shipley lost his life.
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