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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 28, 2012 - 10:33pm PT
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 28, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
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"Let her die" as the teabaggers would say.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jun 28, 2012 - 10:56pm PT
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I spent four hours with Boehner, I know who he is.
Was Larry Craig there as well?
Curt
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
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Karl said Not yet. Obamacare was still a huge gift to insurance companies with the individual mandate. Civilized countries don't do this with private industry insurance taking a huge chunk of the money
Part of the ACA already in effect (over $1 billion in refunds are coming to policy holders now that the ACA was upheld) is that 80% of all funds must go to providing care. Whatever profits are made have to come from the other 20%.
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euro-brief-guy
Boulder climber
Auburn, ca
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
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Karl,
Her story is heartbreaking. However her story is incomplete. Why wasn't she buying her own healthcare prior to her diagnosis? Seems that if she couldn't afford it at the time she would've mentioned it. I could be wrong.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:18pm PT
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Euro-Guy. Seems like her note board is already full. She had a job and it didn't provide health care. Jobs like that often don't pay much and health insurance is expensive.
You can blame her for not sacrificing to get health insurance when she might also be paying for student loans, car payments and such but this is reality for TENS of Millions of Americans. What's wrong with this picture? Seems like lots of GOP rich guys just scoff and expect everyone to have the same advantage that they do (like fatty) while at the same time plotting to deprive even more employees of their health care (Like fatty just showed us)
Part of the ACA already in effect (over $1 billion in refunds are coming to policy holders now that the ACA was upheld) is that 80% of all funds must go to providing care. Whatever profits are made have to come from the other 20%.
Yeah, but their 20% will include the rates of 50 million more people now
More or less
Peace
karl
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
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I spent two hours with U2. I was in the upper deck. Were you? Do you collect pictures of yourself with famous people? You know, where you donate so much and then get to have your picture taken?
Yay!! I am glad that it made it through. The insurance companies are now scrambling for their lives.
We have rationed healthcare in this country big time. It is called insurance companies. They are evil. If they had their way I would be dead.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
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Point of fact:
The actual requirement is closer to 85%, the amount of insurance income that must be spent on healthcare.
And in fact, almost one and a half billion dollars has already been rebated to policy holders.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
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Americans won today...plain and simple and in his usual laid-back-stealth like-style, Obama made the republicans look like the real as#@&%es they are.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:43pm PT
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Yep, Bob.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:52pm PT
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two-thirds of US physicians disagree with that...but doctors are the new enemy of the Left, I suppose.
link to the latest polling source on doctors and the new law please?
you know, the poll you read recently supporting your above statement
seriously, as I have not seen a poll on this in over a year
thanks
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:56pm PT
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This is typical from the same people who preach they want government out of our healthcare
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993
In Arizona, women are now legally pregnant two weeks before conception, according to a new law, the Orwellianly-named, “Women’s Health and Safety Act,” signed yesterday by Republican Governor Jan Brewer. The scientifically, medically, ethically, and intellectually dishonest legislation is designed to reduce the amount of time a woman is allowed to have a legal abortion, and is one of the most draconian bills to become law in America.......
She said the law defines pregnancy in a way that bans abortion two weeks before the other seven states with similar laws, because it calculates gestational age starting with the first day of the last menstrual period rather than the date of conception.
During the hearings on the bill, doctors said many women don’t discover their fetus has a severe or life-threatening problem until an ultrasound at about the 20th week. The doctors — and several women who had faced this issue — testified that this law would arbitrarily cut off the right for these women to have an abortion.
“My heart goes out to the families that will be impacted,” Steinberg said. “Women are being forced to carry children that they know will end up dying within hours of birth.”.....
God forbid the government tax you if you don't buy insurance but quite OK that the government makes you carry a dying baby to term
peace
Karl
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 28, 2012 - 11:57pm PT
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This is MORNING EDITION from NPR News. Steve Inskeep is on assignment. I'm Renee Montagne.
Doctors, by a large majority, support adding a government run health insurance program that would compete with private insurance. That's according to a new survey. What's been called the public option continues to be one of the most contentious issues in the health care debate, but the survey shows that doctors are already used to dealing with government run insurance.
NPR's Joseph Shapiro reports.
JOSEPH SHAPIRO: In the survey, nearly three-quarters of doctors said they favor a public option. Co-author Dr. Salomeh Keyhani is a researcher at Mount Sinai School of Medicine.
Dr. SALOMEH KEYHANI (Researcher, Mount Sinai School of Medicine): The results of the study demonstrated that the majority of physicians support a public option in the United States of America.
SHAPIRO: That included the 63 percent who say they'd like to see patients get a choice of public or private insurance and another 10 percent who favor a public option only. They'd like to see a single-payer system. When the public in general is surveyed, support for a public option has run between 50 and 70 percent.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Jun 29, 2012 - 12:00am PT
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Fatty, why don't you post your cop jacket and certificate ten more times.
This is a great moment. Scalia and Thomas are probably blowing the Koch brothers to get in their good graces over losing this one.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jun 29, 2012 - 12:01am PT
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http://www.thedoctors.com/
9 out of 10 doctors would not recommend pursuing a career in health care.
60% of doctors think Obamacare will lower the quality of patient care.
The survey is from Feb, 2012.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 29, 2012 - 12:02am PT
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Forward/progressive thinking won today. The flat earthers lost...go back to your caves and die off.
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Jorroh
climber
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Jun 29, 2012 - 12:05am PT
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Hey Ksolem
how many qualified applicants do you think there are for every space in medical school?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 29, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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Fattard....Norton might pop some pain meds but you will pop a Boehner....RJ
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Gimp
Trad climber
Grand Junction
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Jun 29, 2012 - 12:24am PT
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Only really big winners today were the health insurance companies.
Totally support the concept of a one payer system but ordering people to pay a private industry with a proven track record of caring about profit before care is not the answer.
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