Look Out! Danger!... Or... "Look Out! Weak Sauce."

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madboIter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2012 - 05:11pm PT

LOL, Chief, you're right. Maybe after his "successful" outing to the States, he'll just go home and take his drill with him. I'm sure that nothing we're trying to convey even TOUCHES him. This seems to be a guy so taken with himself (just look at the STYLE of those vids) that he is impervious to the perspectives of others. He just KNOWS he's awesome, and nothing can cause him to even begin to doubt it.

I do wish he'd try any number of routes on real rock that could not be as easily hacked up with a few hammer blows. I have this vain hope that he'd learn something. But, you're right. Based on that one vid, it's clear he'd just hack longer and harder.

Best we can do is hack away at his sponsors....

froodish

Social climber

Portland, Oregon

Sep 20, 2012 - 05:31pm PT

This thread needs a Fish audio rant, badly.

Hear hear!

Big Mike

Trad climber

Sep 20, 2012 - 06:17pm PT

edited for inappropriate slur.

Gene

climber

Sep 20, 2012 - 06:20pm PT

WAY...

BASE1361

climber

Yosemite Valley National Park

Sep 20, 2012 - 06:58pm PT

The beak taking a 52 blows of the hammer along with obliterating the fishers with each blow was a sad video. You seem more interested in the GoPro action then placing a beak 12" above the last.

Whats with the sign of the devil after each time you destroy the rock?

The other video he was more wrapped up in the first part of the video with the AC/DC and making the video give someone seizures while spending the rest of the video talking about climbing with no real climbing. waste of 7 minutes of one's life.

While I don't have the balls to climb in the fishers nor A4 I do respect it enough to not dumb something down to my lack of skill or size of my balls.

Respect to those of you who carry the balls as big as church bells and climb with a style of some ethics. Jeremy and Gagner have rocked the sh#t out of the Fishers over the past few years. Give them your topo Satin. Let them confirm or deny your route?

Every blow of that pecker and watching the mud fall away says it all.

52 times over.

Da_Dweeb

climber

Sep 20, 2012 - 10:26pm PT

Rivet Hanger-

What I think is that your ego was hardly wounded by the not-so-megahyperextreme A5 WOS (just A3+, isn't it?) and you had to discharge your frustration somehow. You downrated Intifada from A6 to A4+ and Ammon downrated your A5 to A3+. Beyer was a little bit more right than you anyway...

Come on man, at least you have what you were searching for: you are the fu--ing superhero of Supertopo and now everybody knows that yours is the biggest Dick in aid climbing planet worlwide! Has Black Diamond contacted you yet?

Dude, do you know what I mean when I say you're using Ad Hominem?

Copypasta, Ad hominem is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or unrelated belief of the person supporting it. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy, more precisely an informal fallacy and an irrelevance.

Which is precisely what all of your arguments continue to be - irrelevant. We're looking at solid video and photos of what went down on Pelut's climb, and fact reporting by Jensen backed up by his own photography. You're addressing claims that the climb was a botch almost unanimously by the climbers in this thread (which is almost unheard of on supertopo, let me tell you) by arguing that Richard has an ego, that Wings of Steel wasn't THAT big a deal, that Richard ignored Pelut's posts (which he addressed), that he shouldn't have bolted on a SA (which he also addressed), and that any complaints are the result of prejudice by US climbers (which demonstrates your own lack of cultural sensitivity to how aid climbing is done in the US, and willingness to jump to this sad, tired, nationalistic fallback). Each and every one of these arguments is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Get real. Pony up, and present something solid.

Maybe email Pelut and get him to post in his defense on this thread or something, but you're just digging a deeper hole continuing on the way you have been.

Captain...or Skully

climber

Sep 20, 2012 - 10:31pm PT

I figured it was just a matter of time until the ponies showed up...

Da_Dweeb

climber

Sep 20, 2012 - 10:33pm PT

I'd hate to disappoint, Captain.

j-tree

Big Wall climber

Classroom to crag to summer camp

Sep 20, 2012 - 10:42pm PT

Best juxtaposition of ponies and intelligent content.

+1

Da_Dweeb

climber

Sep 20, 2012 - 10:45pm PT

I'll bear it in mind for the future, J-tree. And thanks!

GDavis

Social climber

SOL CAL

Sep 20, 2012 - 10:52pm PT

That video is eye rape.

BASE1361

climber

Yosemite Valley National Park

Sep 21, 2012 - 12:02am PT

I think its in reference to the Spaniards "pony up"

or STFU!!

Ghost

climber

A long way from where I started

Sep 21, 2012 - 12:06am PT

Maybe you guys should lay off the "Spaniards are pussies" thing. This particular Spaniard obviously should have stayed home and stuck with trying to finally get the purple route at the gym, but that doesn't mean there aren't Spaniards who are ten times more badass than you.

Dump on him, not on his country.

bergbryce

Mountain climber

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sep 21, 2012 - 12:11am PT

That's how aid climbing is done? 52 blows knocking a pecker into some hardened mud?
I've been doing it all wrong.

Da_Dweeb

climber

Sep 21, 2012 - 12:19am PT

Ghost does make a compelling point.

Ghost

climber

A long way from where I started

Sep 21, 2012 - 12:39am PT

Ghost does make a compelling point.

Thanks. And another point is that maybe "The Chief" should think twice about the "Way Homo" crap that he's spewing. I know it'll be tough for him to admit this, but some of those Navy heroes he worked with and constantly points to as people we should look up to were homos.

So dump on Pelut all you want, but keep your homophobia to yourself.

MisterE

Social climber

Sep 21, 2012 - 01:18am PT

Thanks Base, for counting the number of blows while I just kept wincing... dumfounded.

Every one of those strikes causes more blow-out during removal. I seriously think he has not a clue of what the repercussions of his actions are.

Or worse: he knows, but just doesn't care.

Someone please archive this in case he has second thoughts and deletes the videos.

Da_Dweeb

climber

Sep 21, 2012 - 03:15am PT

Aye, Ghost. Also an important point. I'm not terribly keen on that stuff myself. Just figured Werners gonna Wern.

Also, Mister E, I'm downloading the videos as we speak.

EDIT: Videos downloaded and archived. Feel free to visit Youtube and "Dislike" and comment on why to your hearts content.