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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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from
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03/04-3
...Conservatives keep arguing about this as if private health insurance were some monetary redistribution program. In fact, the health insurance women use to pay for these services is theirs, just as surely as their wages are theirs. Insurance you get through your employer is paid for by you through a combination of labor and money. Limbaugh’s claims that he’s paying for my contraception when I use my insurance to pay for it make as much sense as Limbaugh taking over my checking account and declaring it’s his money. It’s true that taxpayers subsidize access to contraception for low-income women through programs like Title X and Medicaid---rightly, since public health is a concern of the taxpayer---but that’s not actually the money in dispute here.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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She's Single so the sex is obviously recreational. (unless she's writing off the expenses)
And at a thousand bucks a year for contraception evidently a lot of it.
Climbing is necessary for my mental health. That's much more justifiable as a medical expense.
I want you all to pay for that too.
When is Obamacare going to start paying for may gas bills and shouldn't I get a free national parks pass as well?
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apogee
climber
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"She's Single so the sex is obviously recreational."
You don't know what the hell you are talking about, TGT.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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"She's Single so the sex is obviously recreational."
You don't know what the hell you are talking about, TGT.
Have to agree TGT. Is sex after marriage not recreational? If you don't climb exclusively in your backyard, then you are subsidized because you are climbing on our public lands.
If you are going to inhale the gas (you sound like a huffer) you might start up a ballot initiative to get your indulgence covered in the same way that medical marijuana is treated as a medical issue. When you OD are you then going to want the government to pay for your hospitalization too?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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She's Single so the sex is obviously recreational. (unless she's writing off the expenses)
And at a thousand bucks a year for contraception evidently a lot of it.
Climbing is necessary for my mental health. That's much more justifiable as a medical expense.
I want you all to pay for that too.
When is Obamacare going to start paying for may gas bills and shouldn't I get a free national parks pass as well?
Geez bro. Get a clue about the issue. This is about people who pay for their insurance partly and partly work for it as a benefit of employment. THey are paying for their own birth control through this most basic tenant of our health care system and it's even cheaper for the insurance companies to provide it versus risk her getting pregnant.
You can call all sex that's not for procreation recreational but then so is everything that's not eating, shelter, and work. I suppose you'd expect your insurance to cover an injury you sustained while needlessly recreationally climbing
Peace
Karl
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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You can call all sex that's not for procreation recreational but then so is everything that's not eating, shelter, and work.
So where's my check every month?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Let’s not get diverted from the facts of what Limbaugh said and what he meant. And, let’s keep listening (and documenting) who defends him or minimizes his words and intent. Anyone who defends or minimizes this event and tries to divert the subject is an enemy to 50+ percent of the population right out of the gate (read: all women). There are issues to debate elsewhere, but certainly any defense of Mr. RL on this thread paints one as worse than a chauvinist. I’m with Ron Paul for a change: no forgiveness. Boycott every advertiser on his show forever.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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I doubt even 10 percent of conservatives support RL on this! Do you? Voice your support here!
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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And as for this issue helping to reelect Comrade Obama, dream on. This whole hype-storm will be off of everyone's radar in a week.
You're right DT, the anti-Obama establishment is almost certainly already working on their next silly, off the mark, fear mongering, lets rile up the uneducated masses against the "liberal agenda" attack. That, too, will almost certainly be shown to be quackery and draw that many more potential supporters away from the republican party base. And then they'll try something else. It's like some inevitable chain reaction where the end result is nothing more than the sucking sound as the water from their collective tub of ideas goes down the drain. Which, in this case, is where it belongs.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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So where's my check every month?
Do you have a job? Try getting one, maybe they'll let you purchase insurance as an employee, so that it will cover you when you go to the hospital to get your head out of your ass.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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So where's my check every month?
Do you have a job?
He might but clearly he isn't having sex.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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The word used was certainly not PC.
But, the behavior described not according to the prevailing social norm unusual,negative and even desirable.
So why the outrage?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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well,
not "PC" would be like using a salad fork instead of a dinner fork.
Most six year olds would understand that calling a young woman a "slut" and a "prostitute" on public radio is just a tiny bit different from "not being PC"
And only a complete moron would fail to see the difference
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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But, the behavior described not according to the prevailing social norm unusual,negative and even desirable.
So why the outrage?
What description? You mean the bald faced lie that Limbaugh spews?
Because dude you have made it clear you can't comprehend a "See Spot Run" book.
You, Blew, Chaz, DT and Cornhole Chomper are human paraquat.
Quick go donate your bodies to medical science now so somebody can get use out of them. Don't worry about your minds though as there is still room in the land fill for toxic waste.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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The word used was certainly not PC.
But, the behavior described not according to the prevailing social norm unusual,negative and even desirable.
So why the outrage?
Which behavior do you speak of, taking the pill as a prevention of ovarian cyst or sex (even with a committed relationship) without intention to have babies every few years?
PEace
Karl
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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All of you and Rush have been played on this one.
For me the interesting part of the story is the ever-evolving “coed”. I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.
In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.
While she is described as a “third year law student” they always fail to mention that she is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.
And BTW the Target within walking distance of a Jesuit school, (Georgetown)
Sells the pill for nine dollars a month. no insurance required.
Isn't law school a two year stint?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Classic minimization of RL speak, T. Let's hear more!
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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A quote from the unattributed quote by TGT above: In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.
So just what are you saying here? Or seemingly agreeing with? That the evil democrats unleashed this woman as a secret weapon knowing that RL would spew forth with his typical BS and cause a backlash? Wow!! Either the democrats and her handlers(such foresight !!) are a whole lot smarter than I took them for or the republicans are a whole lot dumber than I took them for.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Democrats can't run on their record.
They have to gin up something.
Running on rubbers?
Really?
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