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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
Guess what? He's still your president and there's not a gawdamn Bundy thing you can do about it!

BWA HA HA HA HA HA hahahahaaaaa!!!!!
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Jun 4, 2014 - 07:26pm PT
2 undercover U2s which had to be in hangers so they were covert; sure as soon as they came out so much for covert. Most of the planes unmarked, little in the way of the Hueys but had a couple of cobras.

Underground installation with tunnels running every which way.

Hot, lots of Mosquitos.

Still too hard will make the next one easy.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 4, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
Being let the dingbat,,radical right wingNuts turn this into anything other than what it is: an act of heroism.

Let Rifleman Ron of the Oaf Keepers Militia rant away. He's best ignored.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Jun 4, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
Ok! One more since it is getting dark out and I am scared of the dark.

Antigua Escuela de Las Américas if you look up history of the place it will tell or you could read some of the comments that some of the guests that stayed there.

Will check in later just before I turn on the small lamp next to the bed?

I sprinkle two bags of potato chips around the bed as well that way if any one sneaks up I am ready, problem my dog eats them.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
Guy was/is obviously mentally ill. Commie NPR reported he was rejected from the French Foreign Legion because they thought he was crazy. Who checks with their officer about what gear might be sensitive before wandering off into Afghanistan? The posts saying he should have just been left /shot/hung are lame. It is a credit to our country that we don't leave people like that to die.

Release of five Taliban guys? Who cares? Not much different than our "friends" in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. A woman was just stoned to death in Lahore for marrying the wrong guy- didn't see much outrage on supertopo. In any case these guys will have their own drones for the rest of their lives and will be more helpful on the outside. If we can't protect ourselves from five known men then we have some pretty big security / defense problems.





Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
1. We do not know what the circumstances were of this guy's disappearance. As one of his mates says:

Nobody knows if he defected or he’s a traitor or he was kidnapped.

So lets see, we don't bother to adjudicate the issue? We don't bother to interrogate him?

Isn't "innocent until proven guilty" still derived from the Constitution?

2. Do we abandon our POW's?

Take the circumstance of John Cain, fairly well documented that he was shot down due to his disobeying orders. Should he be shot? Should he have been traded for some really bad guys?

Do we abandon our POW's? When should we do that?

3. Are those Israelis dummies, or what? They routinely trade POW's with the Arabs.....often at the ratio of 1 Israeli to 25 Muslims.

They must be pretty stupid in dealing with terrorists.

Like Republicans, they should abandon their POW's.

Rong doesn't have a legitimate opinion, because he DIDNT SERVE.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 4, 2014 - 08:40pm PT
Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal on Wednesday urged Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s critics not to “judge” him until all the facts are in and sharply defended the extensive and risky search efforts that claimed the lives of some of his fellow soldiers.
“We did a huge number of operations to try to stop the Taliban from being able to move him across the border into Pakistan,” McChrystal told Yahoo News in an exclusive interview. “And we made a great effort and put a lot of people at risk in doing that, but that’s what you should do. That’s what soldiers do for each other.”

Bergdahl’s release as part of a prisoner swap involving five Taliban commanders has drawn angry scrutiny in Congress. It has also prompted some of his former comrades in arms to paint him as a deserter unworthy of the frantic search efforts on his behalf.

McChrystal, who commanded the war effort in Afghanistan at the time of Bergdahl’s June 2009 vanishing, declined to shed any more light on the circumstances of his disappearance.

“We’re going to have to wait and talk to Sgt. Bergdahl now and get his side of the story,” he said. “One of the great things about America is we should not judge until we know the facts. And after we know the facts, then we should make a mature judgment on how we should handle it.”

Asked whether he would have made the same prisoner swap, McChrystal replied: “We don’t leave Americans behind. That’s unequivocal.”
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jun 4, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
Jimmy Carter was the originator of this Jihadist dilemma that we have been dealing with for three decades.

Oh, it's Jimmy Carter's fault, gawdamn, and the repuglinauts are always accusing dems of blaming sh#t on the past.

Way to reach for nothing chief.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:09pm PT
Yes, it is sad chief. Sad that you can blame the state of the world on Jimmy Carter.
Edit: It was only 35 years ago. Get a grip son.

I hope the great Reagan comes to help you see the way, the path, the light to global perfection.

He's waiting in the wings to lead you to the truth even as we speak. What's his name? Is it Limbaugh, Hannity or Bundy?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
Yeah, I was a real USAF Survival Instructor, not a pretend navy one.
barry ohm

Trad climber
escondido, ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
I was born in 1960, so Iwas a Freshmen in High School when we pulled out of Vietnam, I remeber We had several famiies in our Neighborhood lthat lost sons, others came back with health problems. One of the Girls in my class Father was classified MIA, probably still today. She made it a mission in her life to bring attention to those that served that our Government simple tried to walk away from.So to hear we only had ONE POW and we got him back , Im really impressed on the job our Men and Women did in Afgainastain taking care of each other, As far as this young man character, I refuse to judge a person only on reports from Fox news, Cnn, and 60 minutes, as we use to say, Someone with a Higher pay grade then me has to make the call, In respect for all that served, especially for those who gave all!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:20pm PT
Believe it or not chief, SERE is a real career field in the USAF.
It's not someplace that our guys go as a secondary, like the navy.
Our guys are trained as the best in the world from day one.
USAF is the SERE field that the other services have been following since the beginning.
I'm glad you got to play SERE for a few minutes, but we're not the same, trust me.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
Well, Ron, then I'm wrong, and I honor your service. You really didn't need to lie, though, in the other thread, where you seemed to state that your service was the USFS!
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
“We’re going to have to wait and talk to Sgt. Bergdahl now and get his side of the story,” he said. “One of the great things about America is we should not judge until we know the facts. And after we know the facts, then we should make a mature judgment on how we should handle it.”

Asked whether he would have made the same prisoner swap, McChrystal replied: “We don’t leave Americans behind. That’s unequivocal.”

But navy Chiefs know better than generals.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
The GOP lacks much hope in attacking two-term Pres. Barack Obama on the US economy, since we’ve nearly pulled out of Bush’s 2008 friggen' nosedive. And, since the ACA is taking hold for good (for the good of all), their best target is the wars that they intentionally promoted and created. War and its nuances are always a safe harbor for debate in a false storm since so much is secret or subjective. This thread reveals this naked truth. Cornered rats, hopelessly snarling. . . . This story is a mere grain of sand on a huge beach, except how they are blowing it up as such a big deal. Keep going. . . .
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
So chief, what was survival, like your 3rd or 4th career field?
You seem confused.

I only had one.

Why don't you mention Hard cell a few more times. That should make it more believable.
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:43pm PT
and Ken the lunatic M,, i served six years with the USAF Auxiliary and at the end of that was offered a warrant officer 2 in the regular AirForce. I served at Mcllelan USAFB, Wright Patterson USAFB, Nellis USAFB, Lackland USAFB, Hawthorne Naval Ammunition depot, and Biteburg Germany. Attended all manner of tech schooling at the air bases and I even flew airwacs missions supporting operations in the straights of hanoi.. That was ALL VOLUNTEER time might i add, all in SAR operations. Have over 2000 sorties on SAR missions throughout the west and over seas. So stuff your "i didnt serve shyt" right up yur hiney...

 You mean the Civil Air Patrol?

 What year did you get offered an AF warrant officer position? Cause you are officially old

FYI:
 There is no such thing as a USAFB, it's either AFB or AB depending on whether it's CONUS or overseas
 You misspelled McClellan, Bitburg, and AWACS (which didn't exist yet in Vietnam)

Just at first glance

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
Well yeah, this guy came in dead last behind all the navy poopshooters.

I won't directly call you names chief but I will give you a hearty interservice F*#K YOU!! HA!!

10/28/2013 - CAMP LEMONNIER, Djibouti -- CAMP LEMONNIER, Djibouti -- An Air Force Reserve SERE specialist with the 920th Rescue Wing was named top honor graduate of the French Forces Desert Combat Survival Course held here in October.

Staff Sgt. Benjamin Domian, deployed here from Patrick Air Force Base, Fla., joined more than 160 French and U.S. military members who participated in the 10-day desert combat course, with about 143 completing the test of mental and physical obstacles in the Djiboutian desert.

"We're incredibly proud of him," said Capt. Luc Chandou, a combat rescue officer with the 920th. "I discussed his performance with some of the trainees, and they were all awed by his strength, knowledge and leadership."

Joint training, such as this, builds relationships with partner nations and ensures Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa members are continually ready to support military operations in East Africa to defeat violent extremist organizations.




Ouch. Air Force Dick. Taste the love chief.






Ron, Airwacs? Dude that's stupid.

2000 sorties? No way.





Been that way for over 250 years.

The United States Navy recognizes 13 October 1775 as the date of its official establishment

So really that's more like 238, rather than "over 250".
But we realize facts are pretty flexible for you, so yeah, uh huh.





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