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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Mar 23, 2018 - 11:02pm PT
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My experience has been quite positive. I have only taken mushrooms. The first time I took a rather large dose and it was both good and worrisome. After that, over several years, I took many small doses and those experiences were all very positive. The small doses were never enough to hallucinate. I do not think I ever went out and just sat and watched a sunset. Never again had a desire to take a big dose and have an enlightened experience, just enough as I used to say “to get a smile on”. I always did something, climb or boulder, ride my road or mountain bike, run, ski, workout, kayak, sex, work, just whatever. All those days were just fun and a good experience. Probably one of my best days ever bouldering.
Both of my sisters took antidepressants, I ate mushrooms and rode the f*** out of my bike, climbed till I bled, worked out till I puked, skied my brains out in the middle of storms, smiled till it hurt and laughed my ass off. I have really good memories of friends and strangers that I will remember as long as my brain functions. I have no idea who did the right thing but if I had a way to get more mushrooms I know what I would do.
One sister drank herself to death, the other is an alcoholic.
Here's to sweat in your eye
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Schrooms make me retreat into myself. Cid is much more sociable. While on Cid a person thinks they can solve all sorts of problems. However when you come down the answers always disappear.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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"While on Cid a person thinks they can solve all sorts of problems. However when you come down the answers always disappear"
Three cups of coffee does that for me.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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You ever do LSD, Gill?
me, I'm more of a kinda fungi
depths of heaven through the heights of hell and all that
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position
Such a heavy burden now to be the one
Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see
But I forgot my pen
Sh#t the bed again ...
Typical
It's really interesting to see the different perspectives on here. I'm really curious about the "actual" enlightenment vs the idea in this Tool song and what others have said here about thinking you have this major breakthrough / enlightenment but really you were just high out of your mind.... No judgement either way here, I just find it all really interesting.
I've never taken any form of psychedelics so I really don't have any skin in this. Never thought I could handle being "that high".
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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we all see how high you get Briham
you're on the rock
there must be a dualism, a penitence for the enlightenment
same-same for rock clambering, distance-making footwise, and also for the non-icing kinda drugs, the chemical quick-path to disentanglement.
5- meo -dmt makes you pay
like the weight of the pig, the investment of self into intermediate pro,
the toad's Wenom is a tightrope, no easy ford.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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"HIGH"
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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you found truth there, and the vibrations can be sampled distantaneously, like tele-work
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Sep 23, 2018 - 08:09am PT
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“Study Comparing Three Doses of MDMA Along With Psychotherapy in Veterans With Posttraumatic Stress Disorder”
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01211405
For those combat veterans with some remnants of PTSD, this research seems to offer some promise. (PTSD is insidious malady for those of us who had it. Regular talk therapy often doesn’t do much.)
I remember getting diagnosed with PTSD after taking the MMPI about 15 years after getting back to the real world. It was suggested by the VA that I get involved in the Vietnam Outreach Program. I attended a meeting with a group facilitator with about 25-30 guys sitting around in a circle.
Toward the middle of that meeting, the facilitator looked to one guy and said, “Hey Frank, we’ve haven’t heard from you for quite a while. What’s going on for you these days?”
Frank says, “nuthin.” Frank’s got that 1000-mile stare that some of us came back to the real world with. The facilitator presses Frank for some conversation, and after a repeated inquiries, Frank reluctantly gives in.
Frank says, “Well, I had a run-in with my father-in-law.”
“Tell us about it,” says the facilitator. But again, Frank must be pressed to talk.
“Yeah, well, my father called during the [Packer’s football] game last Sunday, and I told him, ‘don’t call me. The game’s on.’”
“Five minutes later, my stupid father-in-law called again. I told him: ‘Hey! I said don’t call me. The f*cking game is on!’ Five minutes later, my father-in-law called again, and I told him: ‘if you call me one more time, I’m going to pick up my shotgun in the corner, and I’ll come over there and blow your f*cking head off!’” You could see that Frank meant really meant it. It was chilling.
At that point, I thought, “hey, I’m fine. I don’t think I’m in such bad shape, after all.” I never returned to the program (but over the years I got more counseling).
The MDMA drug therapy might have accelerated what I later learned through spiritual practices.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Sep 23, 2018 - 12:01pm PT
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skywalker1
Trad climber
co
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Sep 23, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
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I kinda miss acid
LOL!!I kinda miss mushrooms!!! Haven't done them in a while. But I have usually had a positive experience. Find a good play ground, like in the woods or desert.
S....
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Just finished reading Doug Robinson's book "The Alchemy of Action" . Excellent.
Where is Doug these days? Paging you. Phone # on your web store is wrong and can find no email address. Of course a book like this deserves a good conversation:)
Arne
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WBraun
climber
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Only lazy clueless people do psychedelics and think it increases consciousness.
It takes real hard work not swallowing psychedelics ....
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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I just hallucinated for four days. It was relentless, and it scared the sh#t out of me. I ingested nothing, didn’t want it to happen, and was stuck in a really shitty situation. I sincerely hope nobody reading this has to experience what I just did. It folded my mind in half.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Anyway, back to the book. This ain't about tripping. Mostly about the hormones and neuro-transmitters and receptors in our (yes yours too Werner) body and mind, which of course are one and the same or parts of the same, that cause everything from mood changes, runners high, fight or flight and guess what? Even low dose psychedelic experiences, from DMT, manufactured right in yer own brain.
So look, like it or not, every single one of you has tripped before. Get used to it.
Arne
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