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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Ignorant horse's ass. Amen. Is there ever an intelligent thought that emanates from that man. If so, I have yet to hear it. Makes you wonder about the drivel that must spill when he and his GOP buddies get together.
Pretty ambivalent about Osama's death. If it means that there's a smaller likelihood of additional terrorist attacks, great, though there are likely many vying to fill his place. Other than that, the guy's pretty much just a symbol at this point. I'm waiting till Dick Cheney dies before I crack open the bubbly.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Buried at sea!! That's just too funny!
Cause Obama just put down the right wing conspiracy theory that he wasn't born in the US, but now this is going to bring up all kinds of Right wing conspiracy theories (which may be true, I don't know)
Cause it's been reported long ago that Bin Laden was dead, and no sure signs of him for years either, no Obama says they killed him and buried him at sea but there will be no trial, no conclusive proof. People will go nuts!
and that's even if they actually got the real Bin Laden!!
What if Bin Laden was dead years ago and Bush and the intelligence insiders knew it!?? They could either step forward and accuse Obama and thus blow the cover on their own lies, or let him have a made up victory!! And people might not believe them!
Yuk Yuk. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe Obama's setting them up to rave Bin Laden conspiracy to look nutty, even if it's true!
Perhaps it could be seen as wise if they shot him in bed when they could have captured him. The trial might have inflamed things but, on the other hand, now he is a martyr killed in battle, no good. And we've seen very little evidence of his 9-11 involvement. No better informant that OBL and the people right next to him. Did they take no prisoners? I mean, these would be the very best prisoners possible in the war on terror, the closest insiders of all?
No prisoners would be as lame and suspicious as the burial at sea if you ask me. We risk the killing of troops every day and they do die so safety for the team isn't the best excuse if you ask me.
Peace
Karl
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monolith
climber
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What do you mean right wing conspiracy Karl? Haven't you been reading this thread? The left wings going strong! Any right wing nut jobs will be overshadowed by the left. It's gonna be fun watching them work to the same ends.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Prove us wrong Port.
There is never proof (outside of mathematics), only evidence. This is a mistake you commonly make. And that evidence will be slowly released. But you, you've already formed your conclusions before seen anything. Your bias towards paranoia renders you incapable of lucid evidence evaluation.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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What evidence have you evaluated port?
Cheers bro
DMT
Someone was killed last night, it was likely Bin Laden.... I'll take their word for it until there is sufficient evidence showing otherwise.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Glad he's dead. Wonder what that says about my character? I'm not perfect.
Bring him to court? I don't think that would help anybody. That would be very expensive and fuel the frenzy much longer than a quick execution. Take the heat for his execution and move on. International law doesn't really exist. One of the principles had something to do with who was fair game in an armed conflict. So I am quite sure that OBL never played by those rules.
Pakistan is glad that this man hunt is over. They'll try to appease everyone. The US will take the heat. That's OK.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Any bets on how long till Roxinhishead swaps one dead mass murderer for a new one as his avitar?
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monolith
climber
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What evidence would convince you DMT?
Do you need to personally do the DNA test?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Port,
I gave you the bullet points and even links earlier to check into it. Have you? Doubt it. These aren't my sources and evidence. I didn't make this up. Facts are facts. The evidence is there if you want it.
By the way, I'm not one argueing the body isn't OBL. What I'm argueing is that he was ours, he may have gone rogue (who really knows, perhaps he was still a CIA asset), he certainly was a very handy boogeyman over the many years, he didn't really have anything to do with 9-11, he was the all famous "patsy" that we had to create and then hate. We were not about to bring him to trial. He knows too much. So we killed him. No trial. Just guilt based on no evidence. Wow, that is incredible justice. (sarcasm)
Guilty. Kill him.
Who will be next?
Is that how we do it America now?
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monolith
climber
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Hey Klimmer, when are you going to make some crappy 3D pics of the compound?
The Google earth shots are already out there.
Yea, I know DMT, nothing will convince you either way. But we both know we don't live our lives like that. We make decisions by probability and impact of outcomes.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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I won't believe it until I personally examine the long form death certificate.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland
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Roger Breedlove said...This morning on the Diane Rehm show there was an excellent dicussion on this topic. I think you can listen to on the web.
The CIA has know that bin Laden Osama was at this compound long enough for them to build a mockup of the buildings at the Navy Seals base in Afganistan. The Seals practiced various attacks depending on the number of people who were protecting bin Laden. President Obama gave the order last friday.
These were the guests:
John McLaughlin
former acting director of the CIA and now senior fellow at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.
Yochi Dreazen
senior national security correspondent, National Journal magazine.
Paul Pillar
director, graduate studies at the Center for Peace and Security Studies at Georgetown University and a former CIA National Intelligence officer
Ahmed Rashid
Pakistani journalist and author. A second edition of his book "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia " has just been published. His other books include “Descent into Chaos” and “Jihad.”
Here is the link to that show.
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011-05-02/reaction-death-osama-bin-laden
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Chris2
Trad climber
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Why was "Fixed News" calling Osama; Usama? What was that about?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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continually factual challenged
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monolith
climber
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A body means nothing DMT. Only a dna test can confirm to the reasonable, and those can be faked, so people can still believe what they want to believe.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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I concur about the rest of your statement. Ours is a fuzzy world where our brains piece together a picture out of incomplete information. Such as it has always been. Therefore it should be of no surprise that no two visions are exactly alike.
I completely agree with that statement. But If it wasn't him, Bin Laden will release another video to make fools of the CIA.
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