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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 28, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
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F1 has almost come down to who qualifies best.
They need wider tracks.
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guyman
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Moorpark, CA.
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Mar 28, 2017 - 02:00pm PT
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Yea every type of racing is good for me.
Heck at the chance of being called a redneck... I'll admit to going to Tractor Pulls!
When I moved back to the Midwest I was a F1 - Sportscar maniac... then I fell in with the locals and started going to the Drags and Sprints. Sprint Cars on a 1/2 mile paved oval can be awsome...... this sort of racing is really for the parties involved.
The Wednesday night bracket racing at Cornhusker Dragstrip would get like 500 cars.
I would take my dads 62 Pontiac station wagon, the small one with the aluminum V8 and enter. I had a ton of fun doing it and it stopped me from street racing. But I sort of had a big disaster one time..... I won the whole thing! 15:20 ET all night long payed off in spades.
But the next morning my dad woke me up in a huff.... right there on page one was a photo of Dads car... launching off the line with my smiling face quite visible behind the wheel!
The offer to split the $250 I won didn't help much.
So yea I like it all, sit in the stands with a cold one, kick back and enjoy the show.
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seano
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Mar 28, 2017 - 02:16pm PT
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I've never understood Nascar's appeal, going around and around again on the same oval. If I want to watch motorsports, I tend to go for Rally's gonzo risk-taking (check out some vintage Colin McRae), or the IoM TT's incredible precision.
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Tarbuster
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That is one bad ass, hard-boiled mo fo ... with a sense of humor!
Interviews with Hunt, Lauda, & others, BITD:
https://vimeo.com/71757849
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sprint Cars on a 1/2 mile paved oval can be awesome......
You betcha. Used to watch sprint cars once a month at Haubstadt, Indiana. Crazy stuff watching those things go flying off the track. Saw Rodger Ward win at Salem, Indiana, he was in a class way above the local yocals.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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ALL HAIL THE CHAMP!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Yes, congratulations to Lewis Hamilton, he has again proven that given the BEST car he can bring it home first most of the time. That is not an easy thing to do.
F1 is getting more competitive now because the mid pack is getting tighter and the also-rans, Ferrari and Red Bull, are almost as quick as Mercedes.
Add in some more teams, motor suppliers, and a few more events and next year might be very close.
IMHO... what is really needed to make F1 more exciting are better tracks... I am sorry but a street race in some Russian town with buildings to hit sucks.
The USGP at Austin had side by side action..... all tracks that host GP need to be like that.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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^^^^^^^^^^
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jody with all due respect NASCAR can bang cars, and they do all race long with little regard to the car...unless in a corner. Last 20 laps take forever due to crash after crash and your car can be missing the entire front end and still be competitive. Not much skill involved with that style of racing. When you can start a race with the call out" Boogity, boogity, boogity boys! Let's go racin'". Come on man!
Try racing 3 or 4 corners in a row, right and left turns inches from the next wheel knowing your day is over with a touch. Much prefer open wheel to bumper car style racing.
Peace
Named my first born and son after Niki Lauda
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Yes, Jeremy, Alonso definitely seemed quicker thru the tighter turns.
On the straights, not so much. Hope the Renaults get him over a
few finish lines next year. Those Renaults didn’t exactly shine Sunday!
What was up with The Hulk’s threatening to electrocute him?
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Yeah, I would have to completely agree with Guy about the race tracks. Street circuits are terrible to watch on TV and the racing is bad. There is no where to pass so it turns into a parade. If you watched the last couple of races you could see how well they could pass on a wide open track and the racing is fun to watch. And the worst race, but the one that will never change, is Monaco.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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I don't know about anybody else but I really enjoyed the Mexican GP.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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I don't know about anybody else but I really enjoyed the Mexican GP.
Yes it was good... a glimpse into the future, maybe.
At the USGP we were able to get a bit of real dicing.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
This video is the best... these F1 cars were the best... built to go fast, with a thin rule book. Not like the over regulated F1 cars of today.
In what little auto racing I have done, I find that to be really matched up with another car, trading rubs, out braking, doing a over under. Is what its really about.
And win or loose, its the moment and the joy of that fight that makes the sport great.
Hard to describe the feeling that one can get if you have not done it at some level.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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I was glad to see Verstappen win in Mexico, my wife thinks he is a punk but he has skills, especially in the rain. I am looking forward to see how he does in the upcoming race if his engine can hold up and not take a crap like the rest.
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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F1 has gotten better and more competitive this year for one reason and that was the sale of F1 to John Malone and Liberty Media. They opened up the down force changed the aero on the cars. and widened the tires. This year has more horsepower. Next year will have more changes to motor.
They being a media company are revamping the TV feed to reach a larger audience. New season there will be individual feeds specific to countries. The US feed will feature stats in mph instead of km. They also feature real time drive crew radio chatter. This is great stuff!
These changes have allowed to create 3 different race groups. The fast guys at the front the mid pack and the slower cars. There is great racing throughout the pack. Great racing is not always about the win.
F1 also offers the Prima Donna off track drama each week that then plays out on the track.
The best car does not always win. Bottas and Hamilton are driving the same car. Those cars are controlled by the drivers on a complicated steering wheel. The differential and other adjustments are made on the fly for each turn. THIS is where the driver and car become one and the lesser drives fade.
NASCAR and Indy both have the elite teams that win all the time. Racing is about consistency not always winning. NASCAR has more of a Pro wrestling feeling (not fixed, but the vibe) when you are around it. I spent 3 weeks with the teams and made a film about it at Daytona one year
I'm a Riciardo and Alonzo fan both these guys do plenty of passing and always find a way.
Anyway, sorry to drone on but F1 is really great
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Liberty Media has outlined several plans to improve F1 since its takeover, including the redistribution of revenues, and making the 2021 power unit simpler, cheaper and louder.
However, ahead of a meeting with F1's key players, Ferrari Chairman Sergio Marchionne warned that the marque "will not play" unless conditions are favourable.
"If we change the sandbox to the point where it becomes an unrecognisable sandbox, I don't want to play anymore – I don't want to play NASCAR globally," he commented.
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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Ferrari says that now, but if everyone else joins in they will follow suit. They over estimate their own importance. Race fans want good racing, the manufacturers title is vanity and not a real care for the fans.
I would not want NASCAR either but the geographic nature will guarantee it will never be NASCAR.
Europe is in danger of losing ALL F1 races because of cost to the tracks and lagging ticket sales. The only thing that will save it is TV, for TV it has to be more than a train of cars and the racing has to be more than just a guaranteed win for the Pole sitter. I use to work for Liberty media and they were not good employers but as a F1 and I have seen the improvement in the product. Bernie Eccelsten (sp) was dictator of a dying entity. It has life for the first time in years.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 18, 2017 - 07:24am PT
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_of_a_Champion
Up close and personal with Jackie Stewart at Monaco in 1971.
Weekend of a Champion is pretty darn good, a full-length documentary by Roman Polanski, revived from archives and presented in 2013 with an additional interview between Polanski and Stewart in modern day. It's mostly about preparation and mindset, offering a good look into what F1 used to be like.
Footage of the actual race is thin, but the overall package is still quite good. Some seminal, soon to be dead guys captured on film; Pedro Rodriguez, Ronnie Peterson, Jo Siffert, with a glimpse and mention of Jochen Rindt, who was already gone.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
I watched it via Netflix, and it looks like plenty of pay-per-view offerings on YouTube.
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I was also lucky enough to see Jackie and a good chunk of the same F1 grid mixed in with F 5000 cars at the 1971 Questor Grand Prix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Questor_Grand_Prix
Here's my old man's dash plaque which he received for working as a turn marshal during the race:
... Also saw Gene Romero, no helmet, long brown hair flowing, flashing out of the pits on a GP bike that weekend.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 18, 2017 - 07:50am PT
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Dood, I thought I posted this months ago? OK, it is a worthy bump.
How did those guys get into their tiny cockpits with the balls they had?
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