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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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I am coughing up my lungs into a handkerchief right now.
Maybe let Tyrone finish into a cup or something, bile takes a while to digest that sh#t.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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and here i thought
pebble pecker
thought himself
a gentleman of
sorts, but with
statements such as
You make yourself a woman over me. Be a man instead, one can see
what you really
think of women.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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btw cockjox,
it's pretty hard to google john r diggs and learn what a fundamentalist sham artist the guy is. i just love it when a religious social agenda is promoted as if it's academic research, next you'll be posting philip morris studies on smoking!
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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copy and paste people suck...anyone can find info on the internet to support thier adjenda, then copy and paste and think they are so smart...when really they have no clue...nobody is going to change thier mind here...that's why the polititard threads are so long...and each and every page is the same as the last...people like to feel smart and important...I prefer to browbeat joxy and leb..leb is way more of a challenge then joxy....joxy just turtles up and whines...
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Homer
Mountain climber
742 Evergreen Terrace
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Personally, I think the world would be a far better place if all feelings of racial identity were abandoned. We don't look at eye color, or hair color as being of any importance, why should skin color be any different?
Ghost - I wish that my kids lived in that world, but they don't yet. I need to help prepare them for the world that they live in.
The history of blacks in America - the way that they are perceived in our society - isn't predicated on hair or eye color. When my daughter identifies herself as black, not brown, she's making a statement of pride in her strong racial heritage, not playing an elementary school color game. She needs that pride in her racial heritage in the face of adverse societal messages in order to bolster and maintain her self-esteem.
But maybe I could not do my homework - look into the adoption scenario to see how challenging it is - educate myself on the issues of transracial adoption - hear and identify with the struggles of transracially adopted kids who have grown up and related their concerns for me and my child's benefit. Maybe I could ignore that information and raise her in an all white community with no black peers and role models.
Or maybe I divorced my child's second "real" mom.
Or maybe I'm old. Maybe I'm gay. Maybe I travel for my work.
I think that if we were as slow to judge others as we are to judge ourselves, we might find that we're not that different than them after all. I think that would be good for our kids.
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Maysho
climber
Soda Springs, CA
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Homer,
I commend you as a conscious adoptive parent. As an adoptee I can say that the efforts my parents made in helping me touch base with my roots and feeling positive about my birth parents etc. only strengthened the bond I had with them. They went so far as to push me to find my birth mother when I was a young adult, another move that ultimately made me even closer to them. Your kids are lucky they have you.
Peter
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Maysho
climber
Soda Springs, CA
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Rox,
You have always given my posts some respect. Which I appreciate, all I can say is...
Dude, of course there is all sorts of out-there sexual behavior all across the spectrum of humans. We all know that, most of us don't need to dwell on it.
The point you are making makes as much sense as if I were to say "since we now know the "green barf girl" exists we should question your wife's suitability to be a mom.
Peter
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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You're pretty funny, there ol' joxy. hee hee.
In the immortal words of Wayne.."dude, don't get all mental".
I really don't think ANYONE "hates" you...Ya gotta be worthy of hate.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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The point you are making makes as much sense as if I were to say "since we now know the "green barf girl" exists we should question your wife's suitability to be a mom.
Thank you for that. Maybe he'll listen to you. (Instead of being goaded by the anti-roxjox team into even more huge cut-and-paste articles about the horrors of homo sex.)
Edit to add:
And so far, not a single post out of over 250 has said a single damn word about these issues I bring up
Did you read any of those 250 posts? Over and over, posters have said some variation on "good people will make good parents, and bad people will make bad parents, regardless of whether they are straight or gay or bisexual martians." Nobody out of the 250 that I can remember has ever said "Oh sure, just let any wild gay swinger adopt kids"
You've just allowed yourself to be goaded into a state where all you see are the silly comments of one or two people deliberately trying to egg you on into even further anger.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Personally, I think the world would be a far better place if all feelings of racial identity were abandoned. We don't look at eye color, or hair color as being of any importance, why should skin color be any different?
I don't agree with this. As in many things it's a question of balance. You should feel pride in your racial identity, but not allow that to degrade into feelings of negativity towards other races, or a sense of overall racial superiority. You should also recognize any possible benefits or detriments due to your race so you can take advantage or compensate for them.
I feel the same thing with culture. In America I think people should embrace their heritage and enjoy their cultural traditions, but also take pride in being Americans.
Same thing with sexuality. Just because I'm happy being straight, doesn't mean I think gay people are inferior or can't raise a child as well as I could. Of course it's good to have a male and female role model, but there are many more important things needed to raise a successful child that a hetero couple might not provide.
An easy way to think about this stuff is put yourself in someone elses shoes. If you were a 6 year old kid, would you rather have 2 dads, or a mom and dad who got divorced and hated each other? Or have 2 moms, or be in an orphanage?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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You've just allowed yourself to be goaded into a state where all you see are the silly comments
That is pretty much the right wing modus operandi for everything. It's much easier to condemn the most unreasonable far left loonies instead of having the courage to debate the real issues.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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cockjox-
the argument here is not about your so-called expert, though it makes perfect sense that you'd like that to become the argument.in fact, the argument is about discrimination, which you support, and your postings contain stuff you suggest validates your bias, which it does not. arguing about your posts is not relevant when you are promoting bias and discrimination against people you perceive as different from you, that's just bigotry, plain and simple (go look it up).
if you were at all intellectually curious, rather than so completely attached to your own discriminatory point of view, you could simply google the guy yourself and see what the criticisms of his "work" are...
but nope-
i am not here to hope you'll consider my lengthy critique of crap you cut and paste, please, get a life pal.
as for your guy- i did read up on him.
here's just one example of his flawed methodology:
he cites some statistics on risky sexual behavior or lifestyle choices that was collected health clinics treating STDs and whatnot (and of course he then impressed you so thoroughly by citing the study)
but he then offers those statistics as representative of the community at large, when in fact thay are only representative of the subset of the community that sought treatment for STDs...
that's a big difference.
it's also not a mistake, it's a misrepresentation.
that's what "researchers" with agendas do- the wrap it up all pretty like some sort of academic study and then folks like you have some lame thing to copy and paste, but just cause you can find it doesn't make you a peer of said (quack) researcher, and that's why we all need to rely upon the peer review process, because anyone can write and even publish anything, but people who are more academically familiar with whatever topic is being "researched" are the ones who should be commenting, not me.
and you sir, are just not paying enough attention.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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this thread calls for a vote.......
who would you rather see adopt kids?
a blowhard, unemployed, arrogant, bigotted, sh#t for brains that posts drivel on web sites everyday who refuses to get a job, a guy by his own admission doesnt have many friends? or elton john?
we can have our very own "study"....
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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i am impressed with your knowledge of the promiscuous gay counterculture (not). clearly, you have not been idle in your unemployment. be aware though, sometimes the cops are patrolling looking for guys like you who try and make a buck by bending over....
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yeah Dick, i figured as much. on the plus side it sounds like he is making more intimate male friends.....
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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cokjox, i know this talk gets you excited but this is not the web site for it. I am sure you know of others where you can get your rox off....
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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CAUTION!!!!roxxxxxx slide ahead....or maybe behind...
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