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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:33am PT
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:34am PT
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:35am PT
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:35am PT
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nice MH!
now you gave something for AC to jerk off to! so long as he took his purple pill....
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:40am PT
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Yet, you still don't answer simple subjective questions.
Tip another one and try...
edit: Life long Montanan and in the "book".
2nd edit: You've e-mailed me, sad that you don't put two and two together.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:40am PT
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ac, WTF is yours? f*#king punter....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:43am PT
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clearly edjom and AC should be secret santa buddies....
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:44am PT
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Good one, Jay!!!!!
"born and raised in California."--AC
Which gives you SOOO much standing on wolves in Montana...
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Nov 16, 2010 - 01:56am PT
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2010 Montana Ballot Issues
The following proposals will appear on the November 2, 2010 general election ballot:
CC-2 (Status current as of 11/15/2010)
Subject: Call for a Montana constitutional convention
Type: Periodic submission of question of holding an unlimited constitutional convention
Status: ON BALLOT, pursuant to Article XIV, Section 3 of the Montana Constitution and 13-1-121 and 13-1-122, Montana Code Annotated.
I-161 (Status current as of 11/15/2010)
Subject: Change how hunter access programs are funded
Sponsor: Kurt Kephart
Type: Statutory amendment by initiative
Received by SOS: September 17, 2009
Status: ON BALLOT.
Total signatures received and tallied by SOS: 27,976 signatures, 40 of 34 qualified house districts.
I-164 (Status current as of 11/15/2010)
Subject: Limit the annual interest, fees, and charges payday, title and retail installment lenders and consumer loan licensees may charge on loans to 36 percent.
Sponsor: Jim Reynolds
Type: Statutory amendment by initiative
Received by SOS: February 23, 2010
Status: ON BALLOT -- revised by Order of the Supreme Court of the State of Montana.
Total signatures received and tallied by SOS: 27,421 signatures, 54 of 34 qualified house districts.
CI-105 (Status current as of 11/15/2010)
Subject: Prohibit any new tax on the sale or transfer of real property
Sponsor: Montana Association of REALTORS ®
Type: Constitutional amendment by initiative
Received by SOS: December 15, 2009
Status: ON BALLOT.
Total signatures received and tallied by SOS: 51,736 signatures, 53 of 40 qualified house districts.
A citizen proposed ballot issue can only appear on the 2010 general election ballot once the proposed language has fulfilled three requirements. First, the language must meet the requirements of the Montana’s Legislative Services Division. Second, the Montana Attorney General must conduct a legal review. Finally, after the review process is complete, and the sponsor has been notified by the Secretary of State of the approval or rejection of the ballot issue, the sponsor must collect signatures from qualified voters in Montana.
Initiative or referendum for the ballot - Signatures must be obtained from 5 percent of the total number of qualified voters in Montana, including 5 percent of the voters in each of 34 legislative house districts (a total of 24,337 signatures for the 2010 ballot).
Constitutional amendment by initiative - Signatures must be obtained from 10 percent of the total number of qualified voters in Montana, including 10 percent of the voters in each of 40 legislative house districts (a total of 48,674 signatures for the 2010 ballot).
But seriously, back to the topic of wolves thrust upon citizens by the Fed ...
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 16, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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good one Matty,
so seriously WTF is up with the extinct bear on the flag? not hypocritical? sounds like it to me....at least you can cry for reintroduction into yosemite....
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Nov 16, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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Gee, only an idiot poses questions without proffering answers--you know, Kindergarten stuff.
What about the lobos put into my backyard (NOT YOURS) ?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 16, 2010 - 02:07am PT
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ac, we realize that it might make you feel good to have furry critters runin around while in your state you eradicated them. so put them in our backyard tehn talk to us.....
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Nov 16, 2010 - 02:10am PT
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...as your head spins from the vino.
Anonymous? Me?
Sir, the booze has left your fingertips numb.
edit: When and where was the last time that you have ever SEEN a wolf in the wild?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 16, 2010 - 02:15am PT
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ac likes national geo.....especially the half dressed pictures of naked starving woman. he wants to retain that too...
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Nov 16, 2010 - 02:40am PT
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Too bad pate was allowed to return. I think had I been able to stay in the discourse, I could have shown good loigical reason why he should have been at least forced to return as another persona. His existing one is so flawed...
So what is it now, is he doing posts as Pa'te or something, or he just been given a pass to resume hateful battles and attempt to intimidate and ridicule posters into the unknown future?
Looks like he had a two week "time-out".
come on rj, LOL,
i thought this thread was about wolves! get with it man.....
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Nov 16, 2010 - 08:58am PT
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edejom is about anonymous as you AC...name and pictures has been posted multiple multiple times...
check out these weekly reports:
http://fwp.mt.gov/wildthings/management/wolf/wolfWeekly2010.html
The issue is actively watched...livestock kills happen and action is taken. Complete packs of wolves are being killed in certain areas...wolf growth was reduced from an estimated 18% to 4% last year...
The can of worms is open and it's not the most cut and dry issue...
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 16, 2010 - 10:03am PT
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Hooray for DMT.
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Nov 16, 2010 - 10:10am PT
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"We're paying for your dole, so you will damn well do as we say."--Dingus
With what money, Sir? Your great State is as broke as a joke--ours is one of two States in the BLACK, and it sure as hill ain't because of your bastardization of a Western state. Your natural resources are gone or impossible to get to for political reasons, while Montana is sitting pretty with plenty of WATER, TIMBER, PLATINUM and OIL.
Good luck on getting those bears back, though;-)
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 16, 2010 - 10:57am PT
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Thanks to Kingsbury's recommendation, I've just been reading through Montana's weekly wolf reports. If anyone is interested in what it's really like on the front lines, just read through one of those.
http://fwp.mt.gov/wildthings/management/wolf/wolfWeekly2010.html
Then ask yourself if our nation doesn't have better ways to spend its money and energy than fighting, controling, and reimbursing for wolf predation?
Surely historians will look back and say that in the midst of two wars, a global battle against terrorism, peak oil problems, global warming, trade imbalances, currency devaluation, and hundreds of millions of dollars of bailouts, the fact that we chose to reintroduce wolves and spend so much money and effort on them was just one more sign of the denial and arrogance that destroyed us in the end.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Nov 16, 2010 - 10:58am PT
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The wolf issue is a complicated one. Frankly, as far as personal safety goes, I'm alot more worried about mt. lions than wolves. Ranchers I have some sympathy for. Hunters, not much.
But let's not bring this tea party, anti-federal govt bs into the discussion. Montana and Wyoming both receive more than the average in dollars per capita of federal spending. Alaska, that great paradigm of western self-reliance, is wayyy up at the top of that list. CA is down near the bottom.
Stop sucking from the federal teat, then maybe you have some standing to complain about the feds imposing things on you.
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