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Trad climber
San Diego
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
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Once again, Klimmer has substituted the simple and logical explanation for the absurdly complex.
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monolith
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Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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it came right from the heart of the missile test zone off the CA coast
Nope, not even close to the heart of the zone. At most, the two weather loops show the 'plume' starting in the Santa Catalina Island area. Which is not even in the test zone.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
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Monolith,
What is your point?
The exhaust/vapor plume from the rocket forms right in the middle of the missile test zone (see the GOES IR animated loop, the exhaust/vapor plume actually shows up really well, zoom in) and then, yes, drifts to the SE with everything else in the atmosphere with the prevailing winds. OK. So?
The exhaust/vapor trail from the rocket is back-lit hi-lighting the edges of the plume and the central column of the plume is dark as a result. It was going WNW to NW, had to be according to how the sun lit up the plume.
Once again, if the plume was from a jet contrail, then the Sun must have set to the WNW or NW on 11-8-10, to hi-light the contrail from the NW.
Did the Sun on 11-8-10 some how move to the NW and then set and then illuminate the contrail from the NW at 292.5 to 315 degrees as measured clock-wise? How did that happen when the Sunset on 11-8-10 set at 250 degrees as measured clockwise from the North? Maybe it moved to the NW along the horizon, but just for 11-8-10? (Sarcasm)
Please explain how the Sun set to the WNW - NW on 11-8-10 to illuminate the jet contrail from the NW?
I really want to know how that miracle on 11-8-10 occurred. Please explain it to me.
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nature
climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:21pm PT
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well since you ask...
Divine intervention, of course. That's how miracles occur.
the contrail - flight 808. but that ain't no miracle.
sunflower seeds, klimmer? how about an acorn?
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monolith
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Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:22pm PT
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Look at Ed's map again Klimmer. Not even close to the heart of the zone. Possibly in the southeastern tip. Which is highly unlikely as that area is near heavy shipping going in/out of LA port.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:28pm PT
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Monolith,
You really are challenged.
Look at the GOES IR animated images (zoom in 400%) where the exhaust/vapor plume forms right in the middle of the missile test zone to the WNW of Pt. Conception.
It is clearly to the West of Vandenburg AFB.
If you can not see this using the better GOES IR animated loop then you are blind and purposefully not seeing it.
Stop being a dishonest observer.
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monolith
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Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
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Nope, can't see it. The IR loop is tiny, I can see why you would use it. Just like all the fuzzy 911 photos the truther's like.
Do I have to draw you a map on the large loop of the test zone?
here's the big one:
Here's the small one:
You are just reading tea leaves again if you think it starts in the heart of the test zone.
Random atmospheric phenomena is forming in a lot of places, good enough for you to try to link up with the southerly plume.
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nevenneve
Trad climber
Back somewhere flat, dammit
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
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I'm lost, just whose misinformation is most irrelevant for what point.
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nature
climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
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that's a funny one. Klimmer calling anyone challenged.
you got teeth, klimmer or is eating all them acorns a challenge?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
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Mono,
Once again. You also must be reading challenged. Zoom in 400%!!!!!!!
Monolith,
You really are challenged.
Look at the GOES IR animated images (zoom in 400%) where the exhaust/vapor plume forms right in the middle of the missile test zone to the WNW of Pt. Conception.
It is clearly to the West of Vandenburg AFB.
If you can not see this using the better GOES IR animated loop then you are blind and purposefully not seeing it.
Stop being a dishonest observer.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
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Hilarious Klimmer. Zoom in 400% to see the pixalization.
You post a zoomed in pic Klimmer. I'm sure you will find random stuff to excite your fantasies.
Just like the boulders in the Massive Ark thread you claimed were 'clearly visible' turned out to be nothing. You failed to produce.
Why is your evidence always located somewhere else? You make the claim, you show the evidence.
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nature
climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:44pm PT
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A Simple Mind.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
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Mono,
You are clearly a dishonest observer.
I suppose I will have to hold your hand and stop action each image and point out the exhaust/vapor plume so clearly visible at 400%, and no it is not that pixelated. Pretty clear actually.
I'm not at home to do this now. Will have to later.
But you inspire me. If I can prove the point to you then I suppose I can prove it to anyone.
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monolith
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Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:49pm PT
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Yes, looking forward to it!
Be sure to include the clearly visible plume we can all see in the regular pics and the clearly visible port of LA.
Remember, all the reports say 35 miles west of LA, just north of Santa Catalina Island.
Hardly the 'heart' of the test zone.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
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So answer me this Mono . . .
How can the "jet contrail" get illuminated from the WNW (292.5 degrees) to NW (315 degrees) at Sunset when the Sunset on 11-8-10 was at 250 degrees WSW on the horizon?
C'mon you can do it. Explain that miracle.
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monolith
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Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:56pm PT
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Do I have to waste more of my time Klimmer?
We have a clearly defined task for you to show, but you want to pursue an ambiguous one.
Hop on it.
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nature
climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
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Nov 12, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
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Dr. Klimmer Nash, calling Dr. Nash!
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Nov 12, 2010 - 03:30pm PT
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I'm lost, just whose misinformation is most irrelevant for what point.
this is really right on the money for this thread.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 03:33pm PT
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I'm beginning to agree. Better to not pursue these points. I'm out.
We can't even be sure the weather loops are linked to the event. Just more tea leaves to read.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 12, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
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I'm doing a kitchen for a JPL Project Manager so I asked him.
He said Fattrad was right - it was the Israeli navy's ISS Meshuga.
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