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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:04pm PT
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re: what jolly roger mentions about the molten steel.
there's no question about this. the new york times called it the "greatest mystery" at one point.
if the jet fuel scenario were true, we'd have the fuel burning at an optimum temp of about 1800F, weakening, but not melting, the steel structure of each tower and causing them to come down catastrophically. just to be extra nice guys here--don't hate us 'cause we're beautiful--we're leaving building 7 entirely out of this scenario. but don't forget that either.
structural steel--iron alloyed with chromium--melts at 2750F. takes a lot to get up there from 1800F. large pools of very hot liquid steel were found weeks afterwards as they cleared the debris. this indicates some rather extraordinary energies involved.
there is no doubt about this aspect of the evidence. this is another question from our side of this issue. occam's razor's answer: thermite.
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Mimi
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:07pm PT
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Hurry! Fetch more koolaid. Why, oh why, did this topic deserve another thread? Woe is us when nellie is them.
Truthers = Fools = Gihugic Fail
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:24pm PT
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As far as the video goes. Please! No where near the hieght nor length. I see the tail.....good job.....I can also see where it impacts....I thus can judge the hieght to be approximately 30ft. (Per Video) I also notice I have no problem picking up white anywhere in the Photo. Funny that I have never really scene a black commercial airliner. At least not one so dark. But I digress....the official story does say they pulled of an insane turn, and sorry no belly skid. So with the wings up, why can't I see them?
It was offered as evidence by truthers of no plane.
Okay, I spotted what looks like a plane in the video. Right size, right shape. But of course, it must have been planted, even though you have no evidence of that.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:28pm PT
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i was in the news business for 10 years, reporter/editor for little, insignificant newspapers around the country. when something like this would come up, we'd send human interest reporters out to be all over it. for something like this, we'd be at the doorstep of bereaved families, interviewing them on their loss. photographers would be taking pictures of the sad containers of the bits of identified remains. it would be all over the front page.
This is about the stupidest god damned thing I've read.
Seriously, look it up, news business man. 5 minutes of googling outta do it. Even someone with 10 years of experience in little/insignificant newspapers can do it.
If you find nothing, write a damned story of it. There's a pulitzer waiting for you. There's a reason NONE--not ONE--major newspaper, TV, or internet site has ever ran a story on this. Because it's WHACKED. And NOT because they're indifferent, lazy or conspiring.
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Mimi
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:31pm PT
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JR, it's not about being in denial or not thinking this through. I know this is an old saw, but do you honestly believe that out of all the people necessary to pull off such a stunt, none of them have come forward?
Do you belive the Pentagon hit was a plane or a missile?
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dirtbag
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:42pm PT
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Crackpot sources don't count.
No missing/deceased people, huh?
Why hasn't NBC covered this? The WA post? Wall Street Journal?
Why?
It would be easy enough to verify that no one was actually killed in the crash, and boy would it reveal a tangled mess. The mother of all f*#king stories would be written. Easy, too! Low hanging fruit.
Money, fame, all that good stuff for a news organization and half-way ambitious reporter.
Why?
Because, in fact, THERE WERE PASSENGERS/CREW/TERRORISTS KILLED ON THAT PLANE THAT CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:47pm PT
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That is a cheap shot, make by a puny knothole f*#ker.
Something like 1 in five men are currently out of work, working out of their field, or underemployed in Idaho.
I happen to be wealthy enough and have the support of enough people that I am not dying from a lack of work.
I can go on like this for years.
I must have been pretty smart at some point, I have managed to be unemployed a LONG time, and I still am drinking beer, riding two thousand dollar mountain bikes, and taking trips everywhere from New York to Yosemite.
Can you say as much?
Personal attacks at me are not going to disprove the Pentagon attack issues that are being raised here.
yes,
just keep the old lady working while you play intellegentsia on the interweb. whatever gets your Rox off.
the sorry thing is you aint smart enough to see what a true waste you are.
now back on topic, you guys are whacked. did the cow jump over the moon?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
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Do you belive the Pentagon hit was a plane or a missile?
Mimi you forgot to mention the Plutonium Q26 Space Modulator as a possibility. It's just as plausible.
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Mimi
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:56pm PT
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No, I believe it was an Illudium PU-36 Space Modulator.
White smoke at the airport?!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:57pm PT
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Anyone for a Throopian Negategrator?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 07:58pm PT
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Ah, my bad. You're right Mimi.
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Mimi
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:01pm PT
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It appears that there was also a Q-35 Space Modulator. Looks like there was a regular one and an explosive model. Who knew!? LOL!
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:04pm PT
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Who knew?
Cheney did.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:06pm PT
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And lets not forget, the rest of the WORLD is in on this story. MANY articles have been printed in international publications and some entire nations flat out say we are lying
yeah, but you fail to mention those nations are Iran and Venezuela.
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Mimi
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:07pm PT
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Here's the one we all remember. The Q36. Where's Bugs when we need him!
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:09pm PT
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i guess no one's taking up the challenge to answer my questions, and no one has any specific recollection of the stories surrounding the dna testing. making a lot of noise, tho.
and now we have someone named mimi, "climber" from nowhere using abusive guy-language like dirtbag, who i know is for real. anyone know mimi here?
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:10pm PT
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Wow. There's a bunch of kooky people out there.
Now dontcha think that if there really was a conspiracy to do all of this damage for whatever reasons "they" had, they would've done a better job at figgering out what they would have to cover up and taken measures to do so in the first place to eliminate just the very speculation that's going on?
We're talking about some pretty intelligent people with some impressive resources on hand. Least they could do is hire a couple of physicists to work on blast dynamics and melting points, etc. And how about planting some creatively edited videos in the surveillance cameras to support their story?
Your theories make these people seem like idiot savants.
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Mimi
climber
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:17pm PT
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Tony, I think I've been around here longer than you. I do exist. People that post here actually know me. And so could you if you weren't too lazy to do a quick search.
I painfully read your previous posts. Since you are obviously a Truther, I have very limited patience for your inane questions or comments.
Pay close attention, Tony. This is what happened. Really. Notice no presence of thermite.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:26pm PT
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rox.
for you the truth is in the toilet bowl, really. sniff, touch taste. yep. same sh%% as you guys are spouting.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:32pm PT
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Maybe it was an inside job, or maybe they let it happen after finding out, or maybe they're just covering up incompetence, but even the 9-11 commissioners themselves have come out against their own report, stating they ignored things for political reasons.
THerefore, real questions about Atta, money, the war gamees and such haven't been asked nor answered officially.
Why did Bush and Cheney have to testify together, not under oath, and not recorded?
BS
PEace
karl
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