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JEleazarian
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Fresno CA
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Feb 12, 2010 - 12:55pm PT
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According to Augustine, the only thing that separates Christianity from all other philosophy, ethics and religion is that "the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us."
John
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TMO
Trad climber
Puyallup, WA
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Feb 12, 2010 - 05:33pm PT
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However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them?
Buddha
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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Feb 12, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
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From a CIM
"What could you not accept, if you but knew that everything that happens, all events, past, present and to come, are gently planned by One Whose only purpose is your good? Perhaps you have misunderstood His plan, for He would never offer pain to you. But your defenses did not let you see His loving blessing shine in every step you ever took. While you made plans for death, He led you gently to eternal life."
When my life is spinning out of control this helps.
Juan
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Gobee
Trad climber
Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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Feb 13, 2010 - 10:50am PT
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Proverbs 13:13, Whoever despises the word brings destruction on himself,
but he who reveres the commandment will be rewarded.
Send Out Your Light and Your Truth
Psalm 43:3-4, Send out your light and your truth;
let them lead me;
let them bring me to your holy hill
and to your dwelling!
4 Then I will go to the altar of God,
to God my exceeding joy,
and I will praise you with the lyre,
O God, my God.
John 8:12, Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
John 14:6, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 4:23-24, But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
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Gobee
Trad climber
Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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Feb 14, 2010 - 03:55pm PT
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Ecclesiastes 9:9, Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life and in your toil at which you toil under the sun
Ephesians 5:25, Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
Ephesians 5:28, In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
Ephesians 5:31, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”
Proverbs 31:29, “Many women have done excellently,
but you surpass them all.”
Proverbs 14:1, The wisest of women builds her house,
but folly with her own hands tears it down
To the choirmaster. A Maskil of the Sons of Korah.
Psalm 44:1, O God, we have heard with our ears,
our fathers have told us,
what deeds you performed in their days,
in the days of old:
Psalm 44:26, Rise up; come to our help!
Redeem us for the sake of your steadfast love!
Jesus Paid It All
Elvina M. Hall, 1865
I hear the Savior say,
“Thy strength indeed is small;
Child of weakness, watch and pray,
Find in Me thine all in all.”
Refrain:
**Jesus paid it all,
All to Him I owe;
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.**
For nothing good have I
Whereby Thy grace to claim;
I’ll wash my garments white
In the blood of Calv’ry’s Lamb.
And now complete in Him,
My robe, His righteousness,
Close sheltered ’neath His side,
I am divinely blest.
Lord, now indeed I find
Thy pow’r, and Thine alone,
Can change the leper’s spots
And melt the heart of stone.
When from my dying bed
My ransomed soul shall rise,
“Jesus died my soul to save,”
Shall rend the vaulted skies.
And when before the throne
I stand in Him complete,
I’ll lay my trophies down,
All down at Jesus’ feet.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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Feb 15, 2010 - 12:04pm PT
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Proverbs 15:24, The path of life leads upward for the prudent,
that he may turn away from Sheol beneath.
( Sermon Verses, Feb. 14, 2010 John MacArthur )
"The Atonement: Real or Potential"
Revelation 5:9, And they sang a new song, saying,
“Worthy are you to take the scroll
and to open its seals,
for you were slain, and by your blood you ransomed people for God
from every tribe and language and people and nation
John 1:12-13, But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
1 Corinthians 1:30-31, And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”
Ephesians 2:8-9, For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
John 8:24, I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,
2 Corinthians 5:14-15, For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died; 15 and he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.
[Daniel 7:9-10, “As I looked, thrones were placed,
and the Ancient of Days took his seat;
his clothing was white as snow,
and the hair of his head like pure wool;
his throne was fiery flames;
its wheels were burning fire.
10 A stream of fire issued
and came out from before him;
a thousand thousands served him,
and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him;
the court sat in judgment,
and the books were opened.]
Isaiah 53:10-11, Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him;
he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt,
he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days;
the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied;
by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant,
make many to be accounted righteous,
and he shall bear their iniquities.
Matthew 1: 21, She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”
John 10:11, I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:14, I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me
John 10:24-30, So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not part of my flock. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
John 1:29, The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
1 John 2:1-2, My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Peter 2:1, But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Deuteronomy 32:5-6, They have dealt corruptly with him;
they are no longer his children because they are blemished;
they are a crooked and twisted generation.
6 Do you thus repay the Lord,
you foolish and senseless people?
Is not he your father, who created you,
who made you and established you?
We are only saved through our faith in Jesus Christ or we will have to pay the penalty for our sins in (Hell) eternity, ask God to forgive you through His Son Jesus, now!
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Gobee
Trad climber
Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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Feb 16, 2010 - 07:18am PT
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Ecclesiastes 11:7-10, Light is sweet, and it is pleasant for the eyes to see the sun.
8 So if a person lives many years, let him rejoice in them all; but let him remember that the days of darkness will be many. All that comes is vanity.
9 Rejoice, O young man, in your youth, and let your heart cheer you in the days of your youth. Walk in the ways of your heart and the sight of your eyes. But know that for all these things God will bring you into judgment.
10 Remove vexation from your heart, and put away pain from your body, for youth and the dawn of life are vanity.
Ecclesiastes 12, Remember also your Creator in the days of your youth, before the evil days come and the years draw near of which you will say, “I have no pleasure in them”; 2 before the sun and the light and the moon and the stars are darkened and the clouds return after the rain, 3 in the day when the keepers of the house tremble, and the strong men are bent, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those who look through the windows are dimmed, 4 and the doors on the street are shut—when the sound of the grinding is low, and one rises up at the sound of a bird, and all the daughters of song are brought low— 5 they are afraid also of what is high, and terrors are in the way; the almond tree blossoms, the grasshopper drags itself along, and desire fails, because man is going to his eternal home, and the mourners go about the streets— 6 before the silver cord is snapped, or the golden bowl is broken, or the pitcher is shattered at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern, 7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. 8 Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher; all is vanity.
9 Besides being wise, the Preacher also taught the people knowledge, weighing and studying and arranging many proverbs with great care. 10 The Preacher sought to find words of delight, and uprightly he wrote words of truth.
11 The words of the wise are like goads, and like nails firmly fixed are the collected sayings; they are given by one Shepherd. 12 My son, beware of anything beyond these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13 The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil.
May the love of Jesus always fill your heart!
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Feb 16, 2010 - 07:22am PT
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gobbee your fortitude and persistence are impressive.
the content is abhorring, to me.
grind on, though, soldier. to whatever end is your means.
if you invested such energy into creative and virgin thoughts,
you truely would change the world.
instead, you're simply echoing ancient errors, and thus my mind and heart hear only white noise, and remain static.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Feb 16, 2010 - 10:12am PT
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"If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, and do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging symbol!" 1 Corinthians 13:1
Thanks Gobee...your "love" through Christ shines!
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Gobee
Trad climber
Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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Feb 17, 2010 - 08:38am PT
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James 1:17, Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Feb 17, 2010 - 11:47am PT
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It has been a very very long time, but I kinda remember something about thou shall not kill in there.
I think there must also be a clause in there when that rule can be ignored but again ... my memory.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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Feb 17, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
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"Forgiveness offers everything I want." (W 217) [213]
What could you want forgiveness cannot give? Do you want peace? Forgiveness offers it. Do you want happiness, a quiet mind, a certainty of purpose, and a sense of worth and beauty that transcends the world? Do you want care and safety, and the warmth of sure protection always? Do you want a quietness that cannot be disturbed, a gentleness that never can be hurt, a deep, abiding comfort, and a rest so perfect it can never be upset? (W 217) [213]
All this forgiveness offers you, and more. It sparkles on your eyes as you awake, and gives you joy with which to meet the day. It soothes your forehead while you sleep, and rests upon your eyelids so you see no dreams of fear and evil, malice and attack. And when you wake again, it offers you another day of happiness and peace. All this forgiveness offers you, and more. (W 217) [213]
Forgiveness lets the veil be lifted up that hides the face of Christ from those who look with unforgiving eyes upon the world. It lets you recognize the Son of God, and clears your memory of all dead thoughts so that remembrance of your Father can arise across the threshold of your mind. What would you want forgiveness cannot give? What gifts but these are worthy to be sought? What fancied value, trivial effect or transient promise, never to be kept, can hold more hope than what forgiveness brings? (W 217) [213]
Why would you seek an answer other than the answer that will answer everything? Here is the perfect answer, given to imperfect questions, meaningless requests, half-hearted willingness to hear, and less than halfway diligence and partial trust. Here is the answer! Seek for it no more. You will not find another one instead. (W 217) [213]
God's plan for your salvation cannot change, nor can it fail. Be thankful it remains exactly as He planned it. Changelessly it stands before you like an open door, with warmth and welcome calling from beyond the doorway, bidding you to enter in and make yourself at home, where you belong. (W 217) [213]
Here is the answer! Would you stand outside while all of Heaven waits for you within? Forgive and be forgiven. As you give you will receive. There is no plan but this for the salvation of the Son of God. Let us today rejoice that this is so, for here we have an answer, clear and plain, beyond deceit in its simplicity. All the complexities the world has spun of fragile cobwebs disappear before the power and the majesty of this extremely simple statement of the truth. (W 217) [213]
Here is the answer! Do not turn away in aimless wandering again. Accept salvation now. It is the gift of God, and not the world. The world can give no gifts of any value to a mind that has received what God has given as its own. God wills salvation be received today, and that the intricacies of your dreams no longer hide their nothingness from you. (W 218) [214]
Open your eyes today and look upon a happy world of safety and of peace. Forgiveness is the means by which it comes to take the place of hell. In quietness it rises up to greet your open eyes, and fill your heart with deep tranquility as ancient truths, forever newly-born, arise in your awareness. What you will remember then can never be described. Yet your forgiveness offers it to you. (W 218) [214]
Remembering the gifts forgiveness gives, we undertake our practicing today with hope and faith that this will be the day salvation will be ours. Earnestly and gladly will we seek for it today, aware we hold the key within our hands, accepting Heaven's answer to the hell we made, but where we would remain no more. (W 218) [214]
Morning and evening do we gladly give a quarter of an hour to the search in which the end of hell is guaranteed. Begin in hopefulness, for we have reached the turning point at which the road becomes far easier. And now the way is short that yet we travel. We are close indeed to the appointed ending of the dream. (W 218) [214]
Sink into happiness as you begin these practice periods, for they hold out the sure rewards of questions answered and what your acceptance of the answer brings. Today it will be given you to feel the peace forgiveness offers, and the joy the lifting of the veil holds out to you. (W 218) [214]
Before the light you will receive today the world will fade until it disappears, and you will see another world arise you have no words to picture. Now we walk directly into light, and we receive the gifts that have been held in store for us since time began, kept waiting for today. (W 218) [214]
Forgiveness offers everything you want. Today all things you want are given you. Let not your gifts recede throughout the day, as you return again to meet a world of shifting change and bleak appearances. Retain your gifts in clear awareness as you see the changeless in the heart of change; the light of truth behind appearances. (W 218) [214]
Be tempted not to let your gifts slip by and drift into forgetfulness, but hold them firmly in your mind by your attempts to think of them at least a minute as each quarter of an hour passes by. Remind yourself how precious are these gifts with this reminder, which has power to hold your gifts in your awareness through the day:
"Forgiveness offers everything I want.
Today I have accepted this as true.
Today I have received the gifts of God." (W 219) [214]
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What happens if we do not forgive?
"Forgiveness is the key to happiness." (W 214) [210]
Here is the answer to your search for peace. Here is the key to meaning in a world that seems to make no sense. Here is the way to safety in apparent dangers that appear to threaten you at every turn, and bring uncertainty to all your hopes of ever finding quietness and peace. Here are all questions answered; here the end of all uncertainty ensured at last. (W 214) [210]
The unforgiving mind is full of fear, and offers love no room to be itself; no place where it can spread its wings in peace and soar above the turmoil of the world. The unforgiving mind is sad, without the hope of respite and release from pain. It suffers and abides in misery, peering about in darkness, seeing not, yet certain of the danger lurking there. (W 214) [210]
The unforgiving mind is torn with doubt, confused about itself and all it sees; afraid and angry, weak and blustering, afraid to go ahead, afraid to stay, afraid to waken or to go to sleep, afraid of every sound, yet more afraid of stillness; terrified of darkness, yet more terrified at the approach of light. What can the unforgiving mind perceive but its damnation? What can it behold except the proof that all its sins are real? (W 214) [210]
The unforgiving mind sees no mistakes, but only sins. It looks upon the world with sightless eyes, and shrieks as it beholds its own projections rising to attack its miserable parody of life. It wants to live, yet wishes it were dead. It wants forgiveness, yet it sees no hope. It wants escape, yet can conceive of none because it sees the sinful everywhere. (W 214) [210]
The unforgiving mind is in despair, without the prospect of a future which can offer anything but more despair. Yet it regards its judgment of the world as irreversible, and does not see it has condemned itself to this despair. It thinks it cannot change, for what it sees bears witness that its judgment is correct. It does not ask, because it thinks it knows. It does not question, certain it is right. (W 214) [210]
Forgiveness is acquired. It is not inherent in the mind, which cannot sin. As sin is an idea you taught yourself, forgiveness must be learned by you as well, but from a Teacher other than yourself, Who represents the other Self in you. Through Him you learn how to forgive the self you think you made, and let it disappear. Thus you return your mind as one to Him Who is your Self, and Who can never sin. (W 214) [210]
Each unforgiving mind presents you with an opportunity to teach your own how to forgive itself. Each one awaits release from hell through you, and turns to you imploringly for Heaven here and now. It has no hope, but you become its hope. And as its hope, do you become your own. The unforgiving mind must learn through your forgiveness that it has been saved from hell. And as you teach salvation, you will learn. Yet all your teaching and your learning will be not of you, but of the Teacher Who was given you to show the way to you. (W 215) [211]
Do nothing, then, and let forgiveness show you what to do, through Him Who is your Guide, your Savior and Protector, strong in hope, and certain of your ultimate success. He has forgiven you already, for such is His function, given Him by God. Now must you share His function, and forgive whom He has saved, whose sinlessness He sees, and whom he honors as the Son of God. (W 401) [391]
Today we practice learning to forgive. If you are willing, you can learn today to take the key to happiness, and use it on your own behalf. We will devote ten minutes in the morning, and at night another ten, to learning how to give forgiveness and receive forgiveness, too. (W 215) [211]
The unforgiving mind does not believe that giving and receiving are the same. Yet we will try to learn today that they are one through practicing forgiveness toward one whom you think of as an enemy, and one whom you consider as a friend. And as you learn to see them both as one, we will extend the lesson to yourself, and see that their escape included yours. (W 215) [211]
Begin the longer practice periods by thinking of someone you do not like, who seems to irritate you, or to cause regret in you if you should meet him; one you actively despise, or merely try to overlook. It does not matter what the form your anger takes. You probably have chosen him already. He will do. (W 215) [211]
Now close your eyes and see him in your mind, and look at him a while. Try to perceive some light in him somewhere; a little gleam which you had never noticed. Try to find some little spark of brightness shining through the ugly picture that you hold of him. Look at this picture till you see a light somewhere within it, and then try to let this light extend until it covers him, and makes the picture beautiful and good. (W 215) [211]
Look at this changed perception for a while, and turn your mind to one you call a friend. Try to transfer the light you learned to see around your former "enemy" to him. Perceive him now as more than friend to you, for in that light his holiness shows you your savior, saved and saving, healed and whole. (W 215) [211]
Then let him offer you the light you see in him, and let your "enemy" and friend unite in blessing you with what you gave. Now are you one with them, and they with you. Now have you been forgiven by yourself. Do not forget, throughout the day, the role forgiveness plays in bringing happiness to every unforgiving mind, with yours among them. Every hour tell yourself:
"Forgiveness is the key to happiness"
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cliffhanger
Trad climber
California
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Feb 17, 2010 - 12:55pm PT
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Anyone can make a "new translation" of the bible and put anything they want into it; have it printed up, and demand of true believers compliance to the new view. And this is just what people have been doing for thousands of years. All the genocide in the old testament, supposedly done at God's command, was just evil men writing up their murderous schemes as revelations from God. All told 50-80% of the bible is corrupted by men, I think. But that still leaves alot of good stuff, mostly in the gospels.
The dark side of the bible: Numbers 31 Pay attention to verses 35-47. this is the sacrifice of 64 virgin girls as burnt offerings to God. And this is just a detailed account of one of many hundreds of genocides committed in the name of God.
Misogyny: Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives must worship husband as a god.
1Corin 14:34 ; 11:3
1Tim 2:8-15
1Peter3:1-6
Titus2:5
Col 3:18
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Some really good passages:
Jesus curses the scribes, lawyers etc Matthew 23:13-39 These are the guys that wrote up their own evil schemes as the word of God. Jesus here condemns, I think, much of the bible, a compilation of men.
Jesus takes a bull whip to the money changers: John 2:15 Giving us a good christian solution to the financial crisis.
Jesus fasting in the wilderness to find God. Luke4:1-13. To follow his example, christianity would need to set aside most of the country as wilderness.
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jstan
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Feb 17, 2010 - 01:05pm PT
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Small Business February 11, 2010, 5:00PM EST
Caring for Pets Left Behind by the Rapture
For a fee, this service will place your dog or cat in the home of a caring atheist on Judgment Day
By Mike Di Paola
Many people in the U.S.—perhaps 20 million to 40 million—believe there will be a Second Coming in their lifetimes, followed by the Rapture . In this event, they say, the righteous will be spirited away to a better place while the godless remain on Earth. But what will become of all the pets?
Bart Centre, 61, a retired retail executive in New Hampshire, says many people are troubled by this question, and he wants to help. He started a service called Eternal Earth-Bound Pets that promises to rescue and care for animals left behind by the saved.
Promoted on the Web as "the next best thing to pet salvation in a Post Rapture World," the service has attracted more than 100 clients, who pay $110 for a 10-year contract ($15 for each additional pet.) If the Rapture happens in that time, the pets left behind will have homes—with atheists. Centre has set up a national network of godless humans to carry out the mission. "If you love your pets, I can't understand how you could not consider this," he says.
Centre came up with the idea while working on his book, The Atheist Camel Chronicles, written under the pseudonym Dromedary Hump. In it, he says many unkind things about the devout and confesses that "I'm trying to figure out how to cash in on this hysteria to supplement my income."
Whatever motivates Centre, he has tapped into a source of genuine unease. Todd Strandberg, who founded a biblical prophecy Web site called raptureready.com that draws 250,000 unique visitors a month, agrees that Fido and Mittens are doomed. "Pets don't have souls, so they'll remain on Earth. I don't see how they can be taken with you," he says. "A lot of persons are concerned about their pets, but I don't know if they should necessarily trust atheists to take care of them."
This paradox poses a challenge for Centre. He must reassure the Rapture crowd that his pet rescuers are wicked enough to be left behind but good enough to take proper care of the abandoned pets. Rescuers must sign an affidavit to affirm their disbelief in God—and they must also clear a criminal background check. "We want people who have pets and are animal lovers," Centre says. They also must have the means to rescue and transport the animals in their charge. His network consists of 26 rescuers covering 22 states. "They take this very seriously," Centre says.
One of Centre's atheist recruits is Laura, a woman in her 30s who lives near the buckle of the Bible Belt in Oklahoma, and who prefers not to give her last name. She has two dogs of her own and has made a commitment to rescue four dogs and two cats when—if—the time comes. "If it happens, my first thought will be, 'I've got work to do,'" Laura says. "The first thing I'll do is find out where I need to go exactly."
The rescuers won't know the precise location of the animals until the Rapture arrives, at which time they will contact Centre for instructions. "I've got to get to [the pets] within a maximum of 18 to 24 hours. We really don't want them to wait more than a day." A day she believes will never come.
Centre doesn't think he will ever have to follow through on the service he offers. But he believes in virtuous acts. His Web site directs about $200 a month in proceeds from Google ads to food banks in Minnesota and New Hampshire. And to pet owners, he has already delivered something of great value: peace of mind, for just 92 cents a month. "If we thought the Rapture was really going to happen," Centre says, "obviously our rate structure would be much higher."
Di Paola is a reporter for Bloomberg News .
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_08/b4167070046047.htm?chan=rss_topStories_ssi_5
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Gobee
Trad climber
Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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Feb 18, 2010 - 08:46am PT
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Psalm 40:5, You have multiplied, O Lord my God,
your wondrous deeds and your thoughts toward us;
none can compare with you!
I will proclaim and tell of them,
yet they are more than can be told.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Feb 18, 2010 - 11:38am PT
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C'mon climbers, distinguish between the Grand Bible and the Holy Bible. A couple favorite passages from the Grand Bible:
(1) "Our future depends powerfully on how well we understand this Cosmos. (Sagan II, Chapter 3, Verse 23)
(2) "It is ol' time religious education which is an obstacle to higher education, both science education and general life education. It is adherence to ancient theist doctrines that stands in the way to better practices in the "practice" of living. Adapt. Upgrade. Insofar as you haven't already, do it. Do it in Yemen. Do it in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. Do it in America." (Cascott 3:12-14)
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Feb 18, 2010 - 12:14pm PT
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From the Grand Bible (in contrast to the Holy Bible) a favorite:
(1) "I'm a believer. I believe life's got rules. I believe you can learn these rules, practice them, train in them, and improve your performance in the art of living." (Cascott 3: 3-4)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 18, 2010 - 12:26pm PT
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"Place thy protection well, lest the ground rise up an smite thee."
Book of the Lake of Devils - 19:68-69
"The deader, the better."
Joseph - 19:74
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Upward Bound Col. 1:19-20 Grace By Faith
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2 Timothy 3:16, All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness
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