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mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Dec 20, 2009 - 01:24pm PT
" "you people" know who you are."--Chaz


The classic antagonistic, bigoted, egotistical, response--well played, sir.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 20, 2009 - 01:42pm PT
Rokjoc,

You are right. All the ellaborate preparations they did to make 9-11-01 happen are really staggering. It all spells only one thing . . .


MIHOP.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 20, 2009 - 01:59pm PT
Skipt,

I'm sorry to hear that you are being threatened. That isn't right. No body should have to put up with anything like that. Its wrong.

I don't take your insults toward me personally, and I try not to return them. Debating very contraversial topics is hard to do. I have enjoyed the intellectual discussions at times.

I do not have all the answers, but I am very willing to look, and even willing to go down serious rabbit holes. You have to be willing to look at all sides of an issue.

I didn't come to knowing the truth of 9-11 easily. It took a great deal of time and effort. But I wanted to know the truth. I always do.


Klimmer
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 20, 2009 - 02:03pm PT
Maybe Jack Bauer could find out who did it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yUCbqAGrg
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Dec 20, 2009 - 02:04pm PT
Skipt, it sucks that someone has taken your words and opinions personally, and has threatened you as a result. Hope you are well for the holidays and enjoy life to the fullest, without other people's BS (and threats) getting you down.

Respect, Mon...
WBraun

climber
Dec 20, 2009 - 02:40pm PT
Skip

I don't believe for an instant that Roxjox or klimmer are set in stone about what happened according to the so called "Truthers".

These guys are just presenting the other side hypothesis and ideas that are presented as a check and balance against the "Unqualified praise for the official account".

They like others are interested in this subject matter. It's a very interesting topic and much can be learned.

Roxjox writes some funny sh'it too, so try not to take him so seriously about everything.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Dec 20, 2009 - 04:26pm PT
Hey Skip, I told you that I wanted to pound you on another thread. I apologize for that. You shouldn't be physically threatened and I think anyone who is threatening you should stop. I still would like to pound you, but I would like to do it in the ring when each of us was 20 years younger and could give it a good go. I can't bring it nearly as well as I could 20 years ago, I just get tired of being insulted and my old persona comes out. I use to take my frustrations out on the football field or the rugby field, but I don't have that option anymore. I am not much of a physically violent person anymore, though I have been in the past and am trying to change. I am working hard to overcome these feelings, but Your words about playing games hit hard as I try very hard to be sincere. Then, when you insulted my financial situation as though that made you better then me, well that settled it for me.

That said, I still shouldn't have threatened you. I haven't been in a physical fight in 20 plus years so you were correct that my threat was laughable, though you really should examine how you were egging me on. That isn't very wise because no matter how well you think you can read me, you have never met me. In my younger days I was in a few brawls, and though those days are over, and I am out of shape and working very hard to become a peaceable man, that doesn't mean I can't still get in a well placed lick or two. I figure I would get my ass kicked, but I have had my rear kicked before and sometimes it is worth it for that chance to land one or two telling blows.

I know I did not write you any emails, and don't think anyone should take it to that level. I try to be straight up and approach people the same way I would want to be approached. I don't always succeed at that, so I apologize again for threatening you. If you want to sue me, then go ahead. I do warn you though, as you probably know, I don't have any money. heh heh. One nice advantage to my situation now.

You ever want to go back to the old days and rumble, just let me know. I will take my ovaltine, my heart medicine, my arthritis medicine, my viagra, ( just kidding on this one ) and whatever other pills I can find about the house and meet you anywhere you want. Thanks to western medicine, I have a whole drawer full of pills. ( You might need to send that bus ticket your wife promised me ) So anyways, you want to get even with me, just say the word.

I am not going to ever threaten you again, but I wont take kindly to the insults. I do wonder sometimes if you know just how insulting you can be. Maybe you think I have been insulting. I don't know. You never say, you just lash out. I'm tired of that and I am starting to think it might be time to move on. I am not saying that to get anyone to try to stop me. I listen to my own heart and it is tired of not being able to make a point without derision being used against me. I would have posted on this thread about the wonder I have of some of the information out there, such as seeing the picture of the woman in the hole made by the jetliner, after there was supposedly a fire hot enough to soften steal. Plus I wonder about the small hole in the pentagon. I don't fully accept what the government says happened, and I don't appreciate how the investigation was handled. How one man was fired for speaking a dissenting opinion, and how now anyone who says anything now, is immediately grouped together with all of the wildest theories and labeled a "truther". You think that you have been attacked, you should try seeing it from others perspective. I lost a good friend in 9/11 and it still hurts at times.

I wonder if you even know how many times you have called people clowns? or if you even realize that you are doing it. Is that how you learned to win an argument? Insult someone so they will get mad and thus not be able to make there point? I find that to be the tactic of a very small minded person. I hope some day that you will see this. I know that you try to be a good person, and I know that you do good things, but sometimes you can be a real dick.

You want to call the cops on me, then go ahead. You want to sue, then go ahead. Taking it out on Chris is childish though. He does the best he can to rein in this wild bunch. He didn't set this up so that he could be a babysitter. He just wanted a place to share the adventure. Yes things get out of hand, but that still isn't any reason to go after him.

I'm done, do what you want.

dirtbag

climber
Dec 20, 2009 - 07:31pm PT
I awoke this morning to several emails threatening me with physical violence again.


Dude that really sucks! Hope you and your loved ones are okay!
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 21, 2009 - 01:35am PT
FBI veteran/whistleblower: 'There has to be a new investigation of 9/11'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x276451

October 2009 interview of 24-year FBI veteran, Coleen Rowley.
pt.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnLMAzUIb5M

pt.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QXYNcVuBPM

pt.3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSqzziSGonI



She is very balanced. I would be saying things like MIHOP! MIHOP! (lol)

She is right we do need to do this, no matter how hard it will be. We will not get our country back without it.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 21, 2009 - 02:33am PT
Has MIHOP got anything to do with IHOP? Why are we talking about pancakes?
Mason

Trad climber
Yay Area
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2009 - 12:09am PT
Wow, I've really got some reading to do. Lots of catching up. SkipT retires from ST.

RJ still funny as hell.

JohnM makes peace with SkipT.

The holidays sure bring out the best in people!
WBraun

climber
Dec 22, 2009 - 12:30am PT
Robert Schopmeyer "Prior Knowledge of 9/11"
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2009 - 11:11am PT
Uh oh . . . here we go again . . .




Northwest Bomb Plot 'Oddities' By Lori Price, www.legitgov.org Updated: 28 Dec 2009 (This page will be updated!)

Bogosity reaches critical mass!

http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html


In 2008, the ACLU estimated the US 'No Fly List' to have grown to over 1,000,000 names -- heck, even Cat Stevens and the late Senator Ted Kennedy were on it -- and it continues to expand. But, suspected terrorist Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab, who was curiously able to obtain military-grade high explosives --80 grams of PETN (Gee, where'd he get that?) -- managed to escape airport security and detonate his underwear bomb!

In April 2009, American authorities reportedly refused an Air France flight from Paris to Mexico entry into US airspace because a left-wing journalist writing a book on the CIA was on board. Hernando Calvo Ospina, who works for Le Monde Diplomatique and has written on revolutionary movements in Cuba and Colombia, figured on the US authorities' 'no-fly list.' Air France said the April 18 flight was forced to divert to the French Caribbean island of Martinique before continuing its journey (telegraph.co.uk).

Got it? Write a book critical of the CIA -- you cannot fly. Carry explosives (allegedly from Yemen) on board when the US is trolling for an excuse to invade and occupy Yemen for its oil -- yes you can! The US needs false flags to provide cover for illegal invasions and occupations. The 9/11 terrorist attacks (aka inside job, six ways to Sunday) worked well for the US government; the security-industrial complex made billions and US corporaterrorists were able to negotiate the wholesale theft of Iraq's oil.

According to CNN, the terror suspect's father tried to warn authorities. CNN reported: The father of a man suspected in a botched terror attack aboard a Northwest Airlines flight contacted the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria recently with concerns his son was planning something, a senior U.S. administration official said Saturday. The father -- identified by a family source as Umaru Abdul Mutallab -- contacted the U.S. Embassy "a few weeks ago" saying his son, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, had "become radicalized," the senior administration official, who is familiar with the case, told CNN.

And yet, Abdulmutallab was not obliged to undergo any additional airport screening layers, prior to boarding for the last leg of his journey to Detroit.

Also, lest we forget: Three key provisions of the Patriot Act are scheduled to expire 31 December 2009. Hmm. I wonder if post-Abdulmutallab they will get renewed?

Abdulmutallab was thwarted by a quote, unquote vacationing movie producer, Jasper Schuringa, who, within seconds, asserted that he not only tackled the suspect and put him in a headlock but also tried 'to search his body for any explosives' (CNN). Unless one was a bona-fide law enforcement professional or a military agent, who on earth would think of searching a man who had just set himself on fire, in a matter of seconds, for more explosives?

The goal is Yemeni oil. Hence the reason for the destabilization and the purported need for the US to stop al-Qaeda (literally, 'the database'). The Yemeni national security chief has declared that the country is receiving assistance from the US in the crackdown on what he called 'al-Qaeda operatives' in southern Yemen (Press TV). Translation: US corporaterrorists want Yemen's oil and they want it NOW.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 28, 2009 - 12:24pm PT
Unlike some of you, his head's in the right place on this topic.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Dec 28, 2009 - 12:30pm PT
On Jesse Ventura having an investigative "news" program?
WBraun

climber
Dec 28, 2009 - 01:28pm PT
There is now IRON CLAD PROOF that the attacks were an inside job or at least they were allowed to happen by the CIA and agents at FBI HQ.

There is even official US documents that prove this.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 28, 2009 - 01:33pm PT
Got any links to proof that rises to the standard of Iron Clad Werner? Always looking for the best info

Peace

Karl
WBraun

climber
Dec 28, 2009 - 01:37pm PT
Almost 3000 people were killed when Corsi and Wilshire, with the knowledge of many other people at both the CIA and FBI HQ shut down Bongardt's investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, and main stream media just somehow cannot find these documents when they are located right on the US official web site for the Moussaoui trial. Maybe they can claim that they have just never heard of Moussaoui either.


http://www.eventson911.com/

http://prior-knowledge-of-9-11.blogspot.com/

This is the same guy and there's many pages of his on this so go thru them all by clicking "next page" at the bottom.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/?az=archives&j=5279&page=1
N8

Trad climber
B.B.C, CA
Dec 28, 2009 - 02:55pm PT
Klimmer, I was wondering if you know what translation of the Bible to use to get the results shown for the 9-11 Bible code shown earlier in this thread.
Thank You,
Nathan
dirtbag

climber
Dec 28, 2009 - 03:19pm PT
God must hate us if he makes his "warnings" so cryptic.

BTW, as someone pointed out, 9/11 was peanuts compared to some of the other disasters that our loving God allowed to happen to his children.
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