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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 23, 2011 - 02:32am PT
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OK, here's a photo of Pete's crab, just for Mimi.
Pete on Kaos. They're at the bottom of the long right-facing shaded corner, on the left side of the big black area. More or less centre, about 1/3 of the way up the photo. The sheer mass of Pete's junk show can be judged by the fact that it's visible in this photo, taken with my not so great camera from the bridge. And that's as close as I need to get to his 'crab'.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Aug 23, 2011 - 03:07am PT
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John - there are more bolts/rivets per foot of rock climbed on Flight of the Albatross than there are on Wings of Steel.
Bad math, Pete. You and I have been specifically over this, the last time you spewed this misinformation; I'm surprised to see you doing it again since you've become such a defender of the "truth".
Albatross--> 72 holes for 11 new pitches.
Show me your math.
Frankly, the hole count on Albatross was excessive for my liking, as I've said before. But it was established in an era (the 90's) when 100+ bolt new routes were becoming the norm, a figure I've always considered too many for a El Cap route. I picked the Albatross line for my friend Will, whose lifelong dream was to do a new route and fly.
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Aug 23, 2011 - 09:46am PT
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Stinkeye-
I wanted to take this opportunity to apologize on behalf of Mark Smith. He will be unable to read let alone respond to your post about him being a f*#king whiny tosser whose meaningless life is meaningless due to the whole start of the school year thing which is apparently taking about 16 hours out of his day for a while to come.
Just... Just wanted to give you an explanation.
In case you didn't hear anything from him about it.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Aug 23, 2011 - 10:09am PT
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So Mimi doesn't want to identify with one of the cute kitties. Who's next?
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Aug 23, 2011 - 10:49am PT
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What I've learned from this thread........... NEVER bring a cat to a dogfight
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
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Aug 23, 2011 - 10:54am PT
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This is Mimi.
They cut into her head to let the evil spirits out. It didn't work.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Walla Walla, WA
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:14am PT
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Mimi, for quite some time I've made a point of not responding directly to you. Your level of rabid insanity is honestly so shocking to me that I'm repelled. But your latest bout of posts brings to a head a question I've had about you for years.
You say to Pete, "I guess you'll be taking one for the team. Or perhaps several by the time it's all done." And for years you have spoken with such CERTAINTY about WoS, yet you claim/admit that you've never even been NEAR the route. HOW can you have such certainty?
What do you KNOW that apparently the FA team does not know about what exists on the route? And how have you come to be so CERTAIN about it?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:40am PT
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I didn't have a dog in this fight until that last page.
Now I'm LMAO to see the shoe on the other foot. It seems somebody is a hell of a lot more forthcoming about his own routes than he is about his claims of imaginary bolt ladders on somebody else's.
Still, it pales to the hypocrisy of foaming at the mouth over the creation of a route that can be climbed hammerless while continuing to create pin scars as a byproduct on other wall climbs. Rock alteration is rock alteration. If you know it is going to happen and you do it then it is deliberate rock alteration, byproduct or not.
This whole WoS uproar speaks volumes about what a bunch of whack jobs we climbers are, furiously arguing over the arrangement of deck chairs while we pointedly ignore the iceberg dead ahead.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:43am PT
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Okay, this ought to be good, Ron, which cat?
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Bubba Ho-Tep
climber
Evergreen, CO
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:48am PT
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Madbolter - Mimi lives in her own separate, twisted reality where her beliefs have become fact, not supposition.
She and a couple of her imaginary friends obviously did the SA of the route, saw the evidence and know these things to be true.
Trying to reason with her is pointless.
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Bubba Ho-Tep
climber
Evergreen, CO
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:58am PT
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Mark, Somehow, this is how I envision that Mimi would look if she were a cat.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:59am PT
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Be nice, my cat thing is all in fun.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:00pm PT
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i bet she can $hit on command too!
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
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well, at least i think we can agree on one thing.....pity poor steve if he ever pisses mimi off!
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Bababata
Mountain climber
Utopia
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
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Maybe that's all they got? I kinda feel sorry for them.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:20pm PT
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Strong opinions and outsized egos are not necessarily related. I have met very few climbers who have not had intact and functioning egos.
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Bababata
Mountain climber
Utopia
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:25pm PT
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Strong opinions and deep insecurities, however, are often related.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:28pm PT
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True, and everyone on this thread has exhibited strong opinions.
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Bababata
Mountain climber
Utopia
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Aug 23, 2011 - 12:39pm PT
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Well, I politely disagree with you, Jim. Apart from a few angry and insecure individuals, most everyone has been pretty measured and rational in their responses.
Fascinating stuff though! I think someone could write a PhD thesis in psychology just based on this thread.
Now, back to the show..
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