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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 10:20am PT
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The disgusting thing to me is that for a few weeks this guy was elevated to a conservative folk hero and support for him was expressed be several leading Republican presidential hopefuls.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Apr 25, 2014 - 10:35am PT
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long enough?
You're slow bro.
I snuck that edit in immediately.
Must be the glue...or the ganj.
Go climbing.
edit <-----for slow boy
:-)
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 25, 2014 - 10:44am PT
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beat it
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 25, 2014 - 10:45am PT
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Not one volt of that power will go to Nevada. Not one. It is all going to... Los Angeles
Chuff apparently doesn't understand that the electrical grid is interconnected. Perhaps the words "Enron" and "Gray Davis" ring a bell? You might also note, Huff-n-Chuff, electrical use is not measured in volts.
Meanwhile, Cliven "The Grand Wizard" Bundy, Professor of Negro Studies at David Duke University keeps digging his hole deeper:
"If I say 'negro' or 'black boy' or 'slave,' I'm not -- if those people cannot take those kind of words and not be offensive (sic) then Martin Luther King hasn't got his job done yet," he added
Yes, please educate us on MLK, you ignurt ass cracker.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Apr 25, 2014 - 10:55am PT
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They were eating OUR grass and then threatened to use force against anyone who tried to stop him. Sounds like the Feds used force to protect my property which is exactly what you'd be arguing should have happened were this guy dark skinned spouting anti-white drivel while swearing violent jihad if anyone tried to stop him.
As the great jurist DMT has noted (if I understand him correctly), it's helpful to understand that government grass is NOT "our grass" or "your grass" or "my grass." It's not 1/300,000,000 ours. It's the government's, and you don't own diddly squat percent of it or have the right to do anything with it.
But we do have at least some say in how the government is run by voting, and the government is theoretically somewhat accountable to the people.
The upshot of this is I'm more interested in the apparent federal bungling of this matter for decades if not longer, and which seems to be continuing. It's slightly interesting to me that none of you seem remotely interested in the fact that we seem to have an inept, out-of-control government, which may actually affect our own lives, rather than the fact that there's a kooky old rancher in rural Nevada who is almost certainly in the process of self destruction, which really doesn't.
(DMT may not be 100% right-- for example, there's something called the "public trust doctrine," which may seem to conflict with DMT's rule. But his rule is close enough to being right that it's the best way to think about it.)
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:06am PT
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It's slightly interesting to me that none of you seem remotely interested in the fact that we seem to have an inept, out-of-control government, which may actually affect our own lives, rather than the fact that there's a kooky old rancher in rural Nevada who is almost certainly in the process of self destruction, which really doesn't.
Lolz. So naive, it's almost cute.
Here's the thing - the govt...ANY govt, anywhere is always "inept, out-of-control". If you think this is somehow a new, recent development you must have skipped history class or not been paying attention. Our ability to correct the ineptness of govt is small, slow, and incremental. Conversely, our ability to reign in some scofflaw racist hick is easily accomplished.
It's like digging the Panama canal with a spoon vs. crushing a cockroach with your boot.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:17am PT
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Gee willikers I sure do hope allthem majkill volts of eeeelctrins bein shipt to El A don't hep cleamup they air none. Awldat sonshine gonna make evrbady sew tan weswont noes whota diskrimnate agin
When Sarah Palin and John McCain were "goin' rogue" it was all the rage among right/white wingers. Now the are all a rage because of imagined "rogue" federal agents and other boogiemen.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:17am PT
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Norton...
You REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, SHOULD go CLIMBING!!!...
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I just climbed onto the toilet
and NAILED the Crux MOVEMENT!
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:19am PT
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Was it an OhCOWpie MOOvement?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:20am PT
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Ah only clumbs on Cowz n Congreasemen.
None of All AmeriKKKlan Bundy's supporters here have condemned his racist rant. But several have tried to spin it into a positive message. Desperate.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:29am PT
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Ron posted Ive watched state rights and sovereignty be degraded and stomped upon. Even our own natl guards are now being disarmed - their weaponry given to agencys such as homeland security- a nefarious agency directly tied to washington
The Department of Homeland Security has ties to Washington? I think we'll need some documentation on that one, Ron. If it's true then I agree with you that it's much better for those weapons to be in the hands of the National Guard which as we all know is a transparent agency controlled by a Department located near the Maryland/Virginia border, not some nefarious Washington DC outfit.
Keep dropping these truths, Ron!
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:31am PT
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TiannenMOO square: a proud stand for racist 'sovereign' welfare queens in NV
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:34am PT
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Chuff you are poorly informed deeply delusional and repetitively boorish.
the picture you keep posting has nothing at all to do with Bundy and the BLM.
That is a pic from the ground breaking on a solar farm on Indian lands near Laughlin, Nv.
Not even in the same part of Nevada.
Try getting informed (for real) before sputtering ignorance from your "shet" hole.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:37am PT
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Holy crap, bravecowboy. That's hilarious.
Chief posted BLM Land Grabs then selling it off (The Peoples Land) to corporations for what ever private use they wish to do on it.
Had that been the Repub Senator (D Heller) in the photo below, you libs would be screaming bloody corporate greed murder.
The idea that liberals don't call out democrats for privatizing public land is hilariously uninformed.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:50am PT
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Harry Reids comments still burn the arse of every Nevadan here. He is a democrat - that called the states people he represents " domestic terrorists"
Ron, you are aware that Harry Reid was referring only to the armed militia members with their guns aimed at federal employees, right?
Proof that the counter of a gun & ammo store in Nevada is a bad place to make decisions on public policy.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:52am PT
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The American hero Bundy is standing up against the government, who is stealing land from "the people". Oh the irony.....
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 11:59am PT
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The Chief posted Like the land Bundy had his cattle on compares to this destruction...
So it's ok to destroy public land for personal gain so long as you aren't literally strip mining. Got it.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
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Chief quipped So do the Koch Bros and all the other Corps that so many here detest.
No actually, many of them don't. That's why we detest them. Turns out you don't have to pay taxes when you write the tax code.
Anyhoo...still trying to shift conversation away from defending a racist thief?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:06pm PT
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The reason they now ARM IRS AGENTS is the plan to use those in similar ways against others as well. Why the hell else would they arm such people?
Uh, maybe becasue there are a growing group of wingnut militia, "sovereign citizen" types out there who are itching for a chance to confront any govt agent with their AR-15s?
Pretty damn simple, numpty. They are arming them for their own protection, against armed, batshit crazy fux like you who want to shoot them for doing their f*#king job.
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