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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Nov 25, 2011 - 12:12pm PT
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no that's his special blend C#m sauce...
He would go from home to honky-tonk collecting the ingredients in SF and the east bay....
Then spend time savoring his own personal special blend.
P.S. "Our regulators were lax and the banks/lenders went too far and the government, Dems and Repubs, were cheering them on. Fingers should be pointed at just about everyone, including the socialist Jingy."
Regulators were lax? I tend to think that regulators were not paid by the republican/democrat president to do the job thoroughly, not to mention the very people who were being regulated being able to steer the car.
"and the banks/lenders went too far'
Right.. there was no market incentive to do the right thing. They just created this vehicle to make money and lit the fuse without anyone looking.
"and the government, Dems and Repubs, were cheering them on"
do I have to say it again?
The very people who are being regulated are being put in jobs of being regulators. If you take a chairman from the banks and put him in the job of regulating the banks then he really has no job to do, he's not working for the people, even though he has a title, and he will be getting paid by the very corporation that he was supposed to be regulating once his year of regulation is up at the state department and he heads back to work for the banks....
"Fingers should be pointed at just about everyone, including the socialist Jingy."
Wow... it almost sounds as if I had a hand in the banking/housing bubble...
Have I ever mentioned my families long standing bank? Have I ever mentioned my privileged upbringing as the son of a wealthy bankers child?
Right...
I never have, because that is not my upbringing. That is your fatty. And pointing a finger at me would get everybody nowhere (which may just be exactly what you'd want) when the extended middle finger should be pointed in your direction. You, after all, have mentioned plenty of times your families bank. Leads me to believe that you may not have made all your money yourself. I'm thinking that you may have a person reason why America should do away with inheritance taxes. Which is more that likely the reason that you vote cons into office.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 25, 2011 - 01:07pm PT
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I'm not sure that you even 'see' an issue to be corrected.
Jingy, you just never seem to hear what I've been saying for a while. You think this is a republican, rich-guy problem.
Think of Uptick rules, Glass-Stiegal, and most importantly, Fannie/Freddie. And SEC dudes actually prosecuting people.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 25, 2011 - 01:47pm PT
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Jingy, free markets are absolutely corruptable. This is why we have regulated markets. The problems arise when barriers and regulations are revoked or not enforced.
To think this is solely a Republican thing is naive. You think Dems don't have lobbyists getting them to relax rules and modify regulations? How do you think Fannie/Freddie were established?
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Nov 25, 2011 - 04:23pm PT
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"The Free Market, with resonable regulation is the best economic model."
So I guess you and I have a difference of opinion on the definition of "reasonable regulation".
Sounds to me like you and blew are coming around to my way of thinking.
Republican (cons) lines have always been total de-regulation, and here you both are talking about regulations being needed…
Please, put a little more thought into this tiny part of the lopsided discussion and get back to me with specific
You are correct in that it was not all cons acting to undermine the American public.
But I recall that it was Bush who appointed Paulson to Treasury Secretary… Paulson was the CEO of Goldman/Sacks when this occurred, so.. yeah… it wasn't entirely repukes fault…. but they certainly had a huge hand in setting everything up to fail…
Blewme, you might want to look up that stuff about Fanny/Freddie…
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 25, 2011 - 04:31pm PT
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The National Union of Journalists and the Committee to Protect Journalists issued a Freedom of Information Act request to investigate possible federal involvement with law enforcement practices that appeared to target journalists [during OWS protests]. The New York Times reported that "New York cops have arrested, punched, whacked, shoved to the ground and tossed a barrier at reporters and photographers" covering protests. Reporters were asked by NYPD to raise their hands to prove they had credentials: when many dutifully did so, they were taken, upon threat of arrest, away from the story they were covering, and penned far from the site in which the news was unfolding. Other reporters wearing press passes were arrested and roughed up by cops, after being – falsely – informed by police that "It is illegal to take pictures on the sidewalk."
They want your first amendment.
It gets worse:
In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. The picture darkened still further when Wonkette and Washingtonsblog.com reported that the Mayor of Oakland acknowledged that the Department of Homeland Security had participated in an 18-city mayor conference call advising mayors on "how to suppress" Occupy protests.
Question:
But wait: why on earth would Congress advise violent militarized reactions against its own peaceful constituents?
Eye opening:
The Shocking Truth About the Crackdown on Occupy
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:08pm PT
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philo,
You'll be happy to know that the IDF uses CS on Palestinian protesters.
The evil one
No surprise there DaftRat, The IDF is a criminal organization run by radical religious fundamentalists who are guilty of war crimes. Just your kind of bigboys eh Fatty.
You barf on about Muslim Clerics. Well they are the ones who stopped the Egyptian violence recently by being able to talk to both sides.
Meanwhile the rabid Zionists Rabbis won't even let Male and Female soldiers attend the same dances. Now who are the progressives and the peace makers?
And who are the whack jobs?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:15pm PT
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In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. Yes clearly violent dirty hippies who want their student loans paid off for free.
When will the SkiptDipts and BlewBoyz turn off FuX Noise and wake up.
I find it appallingly funny that big bad climbing mountain men like Fattrad think walking around the edge of a sidewalk would be so inconvenient. OhNo I got my Ugs wet and dirty. Ewwwwe.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 25, 2011 - 08:05pm PT
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Welcome to the Hotel Occupy! You can check out any time, and you had better leave.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 26, 2011 - 12:56am PT
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K-man,
Yep.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2380642
The Shocking Truth About the Crackdown on Occupy
The violent police assaults across the US are no coincidence.
by Naomi Wolf
November 25, 2011
But just when Americans thought we had the picture – was this crazy police and mayoral overkill, on a municipal level, in many different cities? – the picture darkened. The National Union of Journalists and the Committee to Protect Journalists issued a Freedom of Information Act request to investigate possible federal involvement with law enforcement practices that appeared to target journalists. The New York Times reported that "New York cops have arrested, punched, whacked, shoved to the ground and tossed a barrier at reporters and photographers" covering protests. Reporters were asked by NYPD to raise their hands to prove they had credentials: when many dutifully did so, they were taken, upon threat of arrest, away from the story they were covering, and penned far from the site in which the news was unfolding. Other reporters wearing press passes were arrested and roughed up by cops, after being – falsely – informed by police that "It is illegal to take pictures on the sidewalk."
In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. The picture darkened still further when Wonkette and Washingtonsblog.com reported that the Mayor of Oakland acknowledged that the Department of Homeland Security had participated in an 18-city mayor conference call advising mayors on "how to suppress" Occupy protests.
For the terrible insight to take away from news that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated a violent crackdown is that the DHS does not freelance. The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests. And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president.
So, when you connect the dots, properly understood, what happened this week is the first battle in a civil war; a civil war in which, for now, only one side is choosing violence. It is a battle in which members of Congress, with the collusion of the American president, sent violent, organized suppression against the people they are supposed to represent. Occupy has touched the third rail: personal congressional profits streams. Even though they are, as yet, unaware of what the implications of their movement are, those threatened by the stirrings of their dreams of reform are not.
Read the full article at:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/25-7
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2011 - 07:23pm PT
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Everything is corruptible because everything reflects the human nature that inhabits it.
That's why systems of Checks and Balances are good, because they keep any particular interest or power from getting full control and prone to full abuse
PEace
Karl
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Nov 27, 2011 - 07:46pm PT
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Looks like Phillie OWS has decided to become sitters locking arms and blocking a public sidewalk. Bad move.
Why are they so anxious to be entertained by Mr Pepper Spray!
Hope that the video is as good as the last one!
..and it will be seen as a public service message to show that our police will protect the civil rights of citizens to walk down a street without being prevented by nut cases anarchist underachievers.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 27, 2011 - 09:18pm PT
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The Senate has been incapable of getting anything done for years. What makes you think this will be the one thing they'll be successful in doing?
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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Nov 27, 2011 - 09:50pm PT
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Why are you all upset?
I'm quite happy I live in America.
Life is good and it is up to me to fail or succeed, go USA!!!!
I ignore the talking heads and have a good time, so quit bitching".
Life is up to you not them.
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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Nov 27, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
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Why are you all upset?
I'm quite happy I live in America.
Life is good and it is up to me to fail or succeed, go USA!!!!
I ignore the talking heads and have a good time, so quit bitching".
Life is up to you not them.
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