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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Good Read moosedrool
If you read his book, and liked it. You might like some of Hayek's stuff that was written about the same period from the perspective of an intellectuals viewpoint from inside Gernmany at the time.
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overwatch
climber
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I'm gay so what? And I can feed you your teeth.
ITG's occasionally come up with good ones.
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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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Brook has a history of threatening people with physical violence
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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The government damn well CAN legislate equality.
The difficult part begins when you enforce these laws, because those who benefit from the status quo aren't beyond the use of violence to defend their selfish interests . In the early '60s, when civil rights laws were finally enforced in the U.S., black people could actually get into previously all-white post-secondary institutions and even drink at the same water fountains and eat in the same restaurants. They actually had access to civil rights, and could legally compel the Federal Government to enforce them. Good people died standing up for these rights, and they continue to die to this day, but their oppressors now face Federal prosecution.
Government once more clearly represented the will of the people - that is, until Reagan and his handlers unleashed a war upon the middle class and, among other outrages, successfully managed to terrorize organized labour into passivity. This evil rule by the wealthy to the detriment of average citizens continues to this day.
Since the election of this monster, nearly two generations of U.S. citizens have reached adulthood without access to what was once the American Dream - namely a secure job and a house that they could actually afford to buy.
Your sweeping dismissal of any hope for a better world is quite impressive, but pretty well every other advanced industrialized democracy on the planet treats its citizens with more respect.
I find it disgusting that you are so pleased with the plunder of the wealth of the U.S. by the few to be so easily justifiable.It is never too late for an informed electorate to elect people of integrity to run the democracy that so many have died to attain, and the survival of civilization itself depends upon a government that represents the will of the masses - not a dystopia ruled by a small mob of greed-crazed plutocrats
In the words of Abraham Lincoln::
Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow...
It is never too late to stand up and fight for a better world.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Great post Stewart.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Stewart,
You have been duped into fighting for a cause that plays right into the hands of the rich and powerful.
In truth, I would rather die free than rich. But I'll take rich as a consolation prize so, by all means, carry on.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Esco
Feb 5, 2016 - 06:47pm PT
Stewart,
You have been duped into fighting for a cause that plays right into the hands of the rich and powerful.
In truth, I would rather die free than rich. But I'll take rich as a consolation prize so, by all means, carry on
Are you sure about who is duped and who isn't..
Being a skeptic, you will have to show me some very solid proof that I'm duped by the rich and powerful
please lay it on me
until then....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Die free...Now there's an oxymoron...
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Craig,
Anyone that thinks a benevolent government is going to look out for their best interests gets what they ask for.
I'm pulling for you, I'm sure you're right, the career politicians looking to expand government into every nook and cranny of your life only do it out of the kindness of their heart and with the best intentions.
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rincon
climber
Coarsegold
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I think he is just another climber that has very strong opinions
like the madbolter
^^Nailed it.
I know who Escopeta is, and he's a real person. Not LEB, Fattrad, Ron, or anyone else who's been banned. Ya'll would really like him if you met him in person. And nobody builds a better campfire than The Dude. Hi Bryan!
Rob Brown
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Escopeta: How's the view from your ivory tower?
I'd sooner give my life to protect a benevolent government against a mob of racist, greed-crazed lunatics any day. That's what 55 million people gave their lives for in WW II, including several hundred thousand of the best and brightest of your countrymen.
Keep counting your money and spouting crap about a freedom that is only available to the sociopathic plutocrats of this planet.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I'd sooner give my life to protect a benevolent government against a mob of racist, greed-crazed lunatics any day. That's what 55 million people gave their lives for in WW II, including several hundred thousand of the best and brightest of your countrymen.
Stewart,
I want to make sure I understood your comment prior to commenting. Did you just say that several hundred thousand of our countrymen gave their life to protect our benevolent government in WWII?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Rob Brown!!!! My man. Its good to see you typing. And climbing again I presume. KS has my info.
We all need a reunion......there's going to be some space freeing up in Burns Oregon I hear that would be perfect. Oh, wait. Nevermind. Lol.
Idaho is VERY nice in the spring and I present an even more formidable belay counterweight than ever before! Bring Jan and his fly rod.
You forgot about the French toast. I'll bring it. Lol
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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I'm gay so what? And I can feed you your teeth.
Thats so close to what we kid about on the job site.
Someone would get all huffy and we'd say,
Don't let 1 second of courage lead to picking up your teeth with 2 broken arms.
Sure miss the fun times of BS'ing on the job with some hard working bros.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Escopeta: I wish you'd stop being so condescending as to accuse those who find your views to be repellent of being "dupes". I'm quite happy with my ability to differentiate between what is and what should be.
In answer to your question - you bet. Did they teach you anything about the Great Depression? Have you seen newsreel footage of the reaction of the U.S. public to the death of Roosevelt?
Comment as you see fit.
I'm sure sorry that you haven't developed the character to use your brain to help repair the damage that has been done to Democracy in the U.S. instead of working to destroy it.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Anyone that thinks a benevolent government is going to look out for their best interests gets what they ask for.
Right on. The Invisible Hand is our only friend.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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So....
Stewart posted this:
Escopeta: I wish you'd stop being so condescending as to accuse those who find your views to be repellent of being "dupes".
Then in the same post. Very same post, said this:
I'm sure sorry that you haven't developed the character to use your brain to help repair the damage that has been done to Democracy in the U.S. instead of working to destroy it.
And I went back to his postings and pulled these greatest hits of the last, what...week or so:
Escopeta: How's the view from your ivory tower?
Escopeta: such a waste of an apparently intelligent human brain.
pyro: You never fail to amaze me. Whenever I figure you've cranked out the most juvenile and offensive comments I've ever seen on Supertopo, you manage to surpass your previous achievement.
rick sumner: It's spelled "xenophobe", and I don't have an ideology - I just don't like aszholes, particularly those who seek the leadership of world powers who abuse their own ideological agendas to kill people and line their own pockets.
Stewart, your hypocrisy is not a defense against someone presenting views that you can't counter with anything but emotion.
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overwatch
climber
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Don't let 1 second of courage lead to picking up your teeth with 2 broken arms.
Heard that one before, another good one. I liked "the talking part is done" because I actually wanted to fight.
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