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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
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Poor trigger finger discipline too.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
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no camo?
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John M
climber
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Dec 22, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
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Poor trigger finger discipline too.
Not if she is using the lens of the camera as a mirror to take her trick shot. What isn't shown is that she only put her finger on the trigger after she lined up her shot in the mirror of the lens. This young lady is going to be quite the shooter.
When the Zombie apocalypse happens, you are going to need quite a few skills.
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TREED
Trad climber
Gunks
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Dec 22, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
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What's WRONG in this picture???...
"Responsible" gun owners who think they know what they are doing passing on a tradition of ignorance.
(You were probably referring to the wrong shoulder and finger on the trigger and maybe a child firing too much weapon for their size.)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
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try cdnnsports.com;
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lol
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 22, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
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A sad comment on the paranoia and delusional thinking that haunt America.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 22, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
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you don't follow things very closely, do you?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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Ha!
Just got through to CDNN
Ordered another AK drum and some high caps for ARs and Gallils.
Rock & roll!
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:05pm PT
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/mythbusting-israel-and-switzerland-are-not-gun-toting-utopias/
Mythbusting: Israel and Switzerland are not gun-toting utopias
Posted by Ezra Klein on December 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm
My post “12 facts about guns and mass shootings” included a mention of Israel and Switzerland, societies where guns are reputed to be widely available, but where gun violence is rare. Janet Rosenbaum, an assistant professor of epidemiology at the School of Public Health at the State University of New York (SUNY) Downstate Medical Center School, has actually researched this question, and she wrote to tell me I had it wrong. We spoke shortly thereafter on the phone. A lightly edited transcript of our conversation follows.
Ricky Carioti — The Washington Post
Ezra Klein: Israel and Switzerland are often mentioned as countries that prove that high rates of gun ownership don’t necessarily lead to high rates of gun crime. In fact, I wrote that on Friday. But you say your research shows that’s not true.
Janet Rosenbaum: First of all, because they don’t have high levels of gun ownership. The gun ownership in Israel and Switzerland has decreased.
For instance, in Israel, they’re very limited in who is able to own a gun. There are only a few tens of thousands of legal guns in Israel, and the only people allowed to own them legally live in the settlements, do business in the settlements, or are in professions at risk of violence.
Both countries require you to have a reason to have a gun. There isn’t this idea that you have a right to a gun. You need a reason. And then you need to go back to the permitting authority every six months or so to assure them the reason is still valid.
The second thing is that there’s this widespread misunderstanding that Israel and Switzerland promote gun ownership. They don’t. Ten years ago, when Israel had the outbreak of violence, there was an expansion of gun ownership, but only to people above a certain rank in the military. There was no sense that having ordinary citizens [carry guns] would make anything safer.
Switzerland has also been moving away from having widespread guns. The laws are done canton by canton, which is like a province. Everyone in Switzerland serves in the army, and the cantons used to let you have the guns at home. They’ve been moving to keeping the guns in depots. That means they’re not in the household, which makes sense because the literature shows us that if the gun is in the household, the risk goes up for everyone in the household.
EK: As I understand it, there’s a stronger link between guns and suicide than between guns and homicide. And one of the really interesting parts of your paper is your recounting of the Israeli military’s effort to cut suicides among soldiers by restricting access to guns.
JR: Yes, it’s very striking. In Israel, it used to be that all soldiers would take the guns home with them. Now they have to leave them on base. Over the years they’ve done this — it began, I think, in 2006 — there’s been a 60 percent decrease in suicide on weekends among IDS soldiers. And it did not correspond to an increase in weekday suicide. People think suicide is an impulse that exists and builds. This shows that doesn’t happen. The impulse to suicide is transitory. Someone with access to a gun at that moment may commit suicide, but if not, they may not.
EK: I was surprised by one statistic in your article: You said that Israel rejects 40 percent of its applications for a gun, the highest rate of rejection of any country in the world. And even when you get approved, you say that “all guns must have an Interior Ministry permit and identifying mark for tracing.” That seems like it might make people think twice before they shoot from a gun they know the government can track.
JR: That’s a requirement. I don’t know a great deal about the ballistics issue there. But that is in the regulations.
EK: Israel and Switzerland are both small, highly cohesive countries. So some say that the difference in gun crime shows that there’s something about American culture that’s leading to these atrocities. Do you buy that?
JR: Israel is not a peaceful society. If there were a lot of guns, it may be even more violent. Israeli schools are well known for having a lot of the kicking and punching type of violence. I don’t know that Switzerland has that reputation. But Israel does, and it seems that the lack of guns promotes the lack of firearm violence rather than there being some nascent tendency toward peacefulness and cohesion. That cohesion may or may not exist, but not having guns prevents guns from being used in violence. People do still commit homicide and suicide but they do it with less lethal means. The most common form of suicide in Israel is strangulation, which is striking, because it’s not that common elsewhere.
EK: Not to derail the conversation, but given that most industrialized countries have quite strict gun laws, if they don’t use strangulation, what do they use?
JR: I don’t know what other countries have, but I’ve read about suicide in Israel, and it’s striking there, because there’s an age discrepancy. Between ages 18 and 21, when people are in the army and have access to guns, firearm suicide is very common. At other ages, strangulation is very common. So it does seem to suggest that people commit suicide with what they have access to even in the same society.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
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"the literature shows us" to be people that buy into media BS
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
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Good thing this artical is there to debunk media BS,
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
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So now we attempt to make a black eye into a full on cerebral failure.
A BLACK EYE is that how you see the death toll in Newtown? A black eye? That is almost as offensive as Rush Limbaugh referring to the slaughter as "CHUMP CHANGE".
You sir are neculturny. Especially as you wanted heads to roll for the outrage over dead brave Americans in Benghazi. So the teachers who died protecting other people's kids or the principle who died trying to stop the shooter are not "Brave Americans"? Where is your OUTRAGE now?
Gun ownership is decreasing in the US Rongo, even with the gun sale orgies you all are so proud of.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
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So now we attempt to make a black eye into a full on cerebral failure.
A BLACK EYE is that how you see the death toll in Newtown? A black eye? That is almost as offensive as Rush Limbaugh referring to the slaughter as "CHUMP CHANGE".
You sir are neculturny. Especially as you wanted heads to roll for the outrage over dead brave Americans in Benghazi. So the teachers who died protecting other people's kids or the principle who died trying to stop the shooter are not "Brave Americans"? Where is your OUTRAGE now?
Well Mr "Black Eye", Mr Chump Change" I for one would never waste valuable time or life energy roping up with you under any conditions or circumstances. Go stuff a rodent.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:36pm PT
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Of no redeemable value.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
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I will bet anyone 5000.oo that i violated not one law.. takers??
Ron, you haven't yet explained your friends immunity from the law that prohibits the transport of firearms on international airplanes.
Or your conspiracy with him to circumvent that law.....
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
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Rong posted So now we attempt to make a black eye into a full on cerebral failure.
A BLACK EYE is that how you see the death toll in Newtown? A black eye? That is almost as offensive as Rush Limbaugh referring to the slaughter as "CHUMP CHANGE".
You sir are neculturny. Especially as you wanted heads to roll for the outrage over dead brave Americans in Benghazi. So the teachers who died protecting other people's kids or the principle who died trying to stop the shooter are not "Brave Americans"? Where is your OUTRAGE now?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
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Ron I didn't realize you had a lisp.
And I just want to warn all you ST Gun Nut Ramboettes who I am pissing off, don't thing I am un armed. I have an arsenal of pens and pencils. Every body knows the pen is mightier than the sword.
And have you ever witnessed the carnage from a mass cartooning. Look out suckas I even have oil pastels!.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
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Well Ron quit bitchin about the economy I just helped double your weekly take home.
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