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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:01am PT
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Obama is the ringleader of the Wall Street One Percent!
Chaz if that were even remotely true you and Skipt would be taking turns giving him blow jobs and gargling his man seed instead of condemning him as a non native American, socialist, muslim, communist, clown or what ever Rush, Beck And Hannity tell you to think and say today.
So what is it? Make up your minds. Is he the top dog of the 1% or the antichrist.
Do you wingnuts every realize how ignoRANT you sound?
I love the "doublespeak" that states the concern for the health and welfare of the protestors is why we needed to pepperspray, billyclub and rubber bullet them.
OCCUPY POLICE STATIONS!
F*#K THE BROWNSHIRT FACISTS!
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:32am PT
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Pile-o -Seriously????
Its probably Putin helping Obama on this.
Think of it as payback for the success the CIA has had with the Arab Spring. So its just your typical tit for tat fake unrest generated by covert commie assets over here.
The message the commies are sending is: You screw with our arab pawns we'll mess with you. Although in this case Obama is happy to cheer on the OWS rioters. Go figure.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 20, 2011 - 12:07pm PT
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Open Letter to (U.C. Davis) Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi
Without any provocation whatsoever, other than the bodies of these students sitting where they were on the ground, with their arms linked, police pepper-sprayed students. Students remained on the ground, now writhing in pain, with their arms linked.
What happened next?
Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood.
--Nathan Brown
Assistant Professor
Department of English
Program in Critical Theory
University of California at Davis
The emperor's cloths are beginning to fall off.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Nov 21, 2011 - 02:23am PT
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openchannel.msnbc.msn.com
Open Channel:
Lobbying firm's memo spells out plan to undermine Occupy Wall Street
By Jonathan Larsen and Ken Olshansky, MSNBC TV
A well-known Washington lobbying firm with links to the financial industry has proposed an $850,000 plan to take on Occupy Wall Street and politicians who might express sympathy for the protests, according to a memo obtained by …
http://news.yahoo.com/top-0-1-nation-earn-half-capital-gains-172647859.html
Capital gains are the key ingredient of income disparity in the US-- and the force behind the winner takes all mantra of our economic system. If you want to even out earning power in the U.S, you have to raise the 15% capital gains tax.
Income and wealth disparities become even more absurd if we look at the top 0.1% of the nation's earners-- rather than the more common 1%. The top 0.1%-- about 315,000 individuals out of 315 million-- are making about half of all capital gains on the sale of shares or property after 1 year; and these capital gains make up 60% of the income made by the Forbes 400.
It's crystal clear that the Bush tax reduction on capital gains and dividend income in 2003 was the cutting edge policy that has created the immense increase in net worth of corporate executives, Wall St. professionals and other entrepreneurs.
The reduction in the tax from 20% to 15% continued the step-by-step tradition of cutting this tax to create more wealth. It had first been reduced from 35% in 1978 at a time of stock market and economic stagnation to 28% . Again 1981, at the start of the Reagan era, it was reduced again to 20%-- raised back to 28% in 1987, on the eve of the October 19 232% crash in the market. In 1997 Clinton agreed to reduce it back to 20%, which move was an inducement for the explosion of hedge funds and private equity firms-- the most "rapidly rising cohort within the top 1 per cent."
Make no mistake; the battle that is to be fought over the coming attempt to reverse this reduction in capital gains will be bloody and intense. The facts are clear according to the Congressional Budget Office more than 80% of the increase in income inequality was the result of an increase in the share of household income from capital gains. In fact, you can go so far as to claim that "Capital Gains income is the most unevenly distributed-- and volatile-- source of household income," according to Laura D'Andrea Tyson, University of California business professor and former chairwoman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Clinton.
No wonder the super wealthy plutocrats obtained the largest share of national income-- 25% of the nation's wealth- greater than any other industrial nation in the the period of 1979 to 2005. Make no mistake; after unemployment-- this disparity between the 1%-- 3 million-- or the 0.1%-- the 300,000-- and the other 312 million citizens of the U.S. has become the major theme of the Occupy Wall Street movement-- and an important national debate.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 21, 2011 - 11:14am PT
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bookworm, your posts do not point out anything other than your inability to address any of the issues that OWS raises.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Nov 21, 2011 - 11:19am PT
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that is surprising
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 22, 2011 - 02:10am PT
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You will need to make a distinction between the action of a few rogue actors and the rest.
You will need to cut through the propaganda so you can see the issues clearly.
You will need to use your intelligence to discern that.
The problem is that the rogue actors seem to be in charge, and they are adopting the techniques of anarchy.
Look at the last week. what has occured to wake people up to the evils of corporatism? Nothing.
the evils of corrupt gov't? Nothing.
The approach appears to be the provocation of violence. Note that protesters carry many, many video cameras. They are looking for "the shot" which they so carefully have contrived.
I do not believe the shot of the "protester" crapping on the police car came from the right, I believe it came from the OWS movement, that is trying to incite police to do bad things.
They PRETEND that they are outraged at arrests, when THAT IS THE GOAL. They CELEBRATE arrests! Arrests are a publicity tool, and have been in civil disobedience forever.
The controlling interest seems to be ancharist goals. "Helter-Skelter"
But the real problem is shown by the frequent poster here: Avatar is a masked person, who hides identity.
Think back to Gandhi, to MLK. These icons of non-violence NEVER hid their faces or identities. Nor did their followers.
I am very concerned by this "Black Bloc" element, sometimes calling themselves Black Shirts. The flavor of that is very sour in my mouth. It harkens to extremes of violence and fascism.
This is not a movement that America will be comfortable with, and will demand be stopped.
There is no activity, such as the Vietnam War, to stoke the fires of discontent among the middle class, but this movement is increasingly scary. The 99% will demand protection.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 22, 2011 - 02:12am PT
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Well, perhaps the point is that there is no controlling interest. The Occupyers represent a wide range of discontented constituencies, some now opportunistic. Not a hard situation for others with less pure motives to take advantage of, whether it's the police or anarchists.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Nov 22, 2011 - 03:02pm PT
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"We" Fattrad? Capitalist running dogs? LOL
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 22, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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This is not a movement that America will be comfortable with, and will demand be stopped.
There is no activity, such as the Vietnam War, to stoke the fires of discontent among the middle class, but this movement is increasingly scary. The 99% will demand protection.
you speaking for or about the 99%?
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Nov 22, 2011 - 04:24pm PT
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Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.
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CrackAddict
Trad climber
Canoga Park, CA
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Nov 22, 2011 - 07:51pm PT
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New York - Occupy Wall Street protesters launched the "Occupy Student Debt Campaign" in Zucotti Park on Monday. They hope to have one million people pledge to stop paying their student loan obligations collectively.
I hope the rich start an "Occupy the IRS" campaign and stop paying taxes so there will be no more student aid.
That is how you help the economy! Default on your debts. Live in your house free! Don't pay your credit card company! Create another credit crisis, and then blame it on the banksters, they are evil for loaning so much money to deadbeats anyway!
What a bunch of pathetic losers. I hope everyone who stops paying back their loans gets a shot of pepper spray right in the face.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2011 - 08:08pm PT
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And if you smoke a reefer, you will become a heroin addict.
And another one joins Fattrad in spreading the Slippery Slope
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 23, 2011 - 11:10am PT
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OWS is over, the major encampments have been displaced, We Won.
Here we see a small, ugly mind at work.
Who is the "we" referenced here? How is victory declared?
Idiot, you will claim victory only when all the OWS protesters are killed, because the movement is only just beginning.
You are certainly a pathetic fool.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 23, 2011 - 11:13am PT
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"The officers were doing simply what they were instructed to do by upper management there," Dammeier said, referring to police, not university, management. "So the officers are getting beat up pretty good out there, but they were simply doing what they were instructed to do."
Pass the blame to a nameless "upper management."
But it was the cop who made the decision to use spray against the sitting protesters.
John Pike, U.C. Davis Pepper-Spraying Police Officer, Previously Honored
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 23, 2011 - 11:18am PT
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This is where the rubber hits the road:
'Occupy' Protests Cost Nation's Cities At Least $13 Million: Survey
All this military-style response to the encampments are costing cities money they don't have. To whom will they turn next.
It might happen in secret, but you can guess that the riot-clad response will be propped up by those whom they defend.
Come on fattrad, donate 10% of your earning to the Oakland police and such. They're the ones defending your sorry greed.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 23, 2011 - 12:20pm PT
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How old are you Jeff?
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