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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:21am PT
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And your slippery slope than gets you to the point that every f*#king street corner in America has an armed guard.
That's not the America I want to live in and it's not the America that most Americans want to live in.
And it's EXACTLY why I'm stoked the NRA came out and advocated for guarding schools. It's going to backfire.
What would be Doug's solution to the school shooting dilemma?
You state that like it's somehow a "school" dilema. What about Aurora? A place just down the street from me. That's not a school. Armed guards at movie theaters?
I don't see the "school shooting dilemma" as anything to be concerned with directly. And I say that simply because it can happen anywhere not just schools.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:23am PT
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What was that about a slippery slope?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:26am PT
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And your slippery slope than gets you to the point that every f*#king street corner in America has an armed guard.
Don't we have that already, genius? With cops?
I'm talking about protecting schools! Where the one place we REFUSE to have guns or armed men.
That was Wayne's point!!!! But you will never see that.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:29am PT
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Bananas to walnuts?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:30am PT
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yes, we have police on every street corner. it's exactly why they responded so quickly to Aurora and to the shooting a week ago.
Oh... or are elementary schools a police free zone?
whatever blue... have your argument.
my point is I'm psyched the NRA made todays statement. you and they are the ones now fighting against a public that will galvanize and make an effort to bring about real change. you're scope of the problem is so narrow minded you have no real hope of getting hardly anyone to listen and change their mind. and in the end it's you that has something to lose.
Figure out how to engage the growing masses of us that are about to bring about real change. Or keep your views. At which point you stand even less of a chance to keep what you currently have.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:30am PT
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You state that like it's somehow a "school" dilema. What about Aurora? A place just down the street from me. That's not a school. Armed guards at movie theaters?
It appears as though the Aurora shooter avoided all local film joints that allowed CCW gun carriers. He went for the "gun-free" theater.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:30am PT
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Does anyone, ever, make any comparison to anything, without a wingnut saying "apples to oranges"?
are you calling me a wingnut?
philo +1
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:31am PT
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Nature writes:
"Your slippery slope is that eventually every public and private building will need an armed guard.
don't you see that?"
The taco stands around here have armed guards. If you eat at Rico Taco on Mt Vernon in San Bernardino, you'll be watched over by Chuy and his blue-steel .357.
Don't you care as much about kids as Chuy in San Bernardino cares about tacos?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:32am PT
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Chaz with the straw man put back.... score it and one.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:34am PT
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my point is I'm psyched the NRA made todays statement. you and they are the ones now fighting against a public that will galvanize and make an effort to bring about real change. you're scope of the problem is so narrow minded you have no real hope of getting hardly anyone to listen and change their mind. and in the end it's you that has something to lose.
Figure out how to engage the growing masses of us that are about to bring about real change. Or keep your views. At which point you stand even less of a chance to keep what you currently have.
WTF does that mean? You want to take my .45 and my shotgun?
Good luck...
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:35am PT
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I'm not currently advocating for anything. I'm merely making the observation that things ARE going to change and that you probably won't like it. Simple. As. That.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:37am PT
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Bluering are you planning on home schooling your child?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:38am PT
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Don't forget Colombine! One Sherrif deputy who was shot.
But he did delay the shooters. He shot at them multiple times.
(lousy shot).
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:40am PT
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Bluering are you planning on home schooling your child?
FYI, I've stopped answering stupid rhetorical questions.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:42am PT
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jghedge writes:
"Guns in homes kill far more kids than they defend."
There should be numbers somewhere to back that up - if it's true. You wouldn't be able to cite those numbers, would you?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:43am PT
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A pediatrician will usually ask if there's guns in the home - they know they're a leading cause of child fatality.
That is the stupidest sh#t I've heard in a while. Where did you hear that gem from? Or was it just pulled from yer ass?
Let's try to be sincere, folks.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:44am PT
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FYI, speaking rhetorically You are stupid if you want to arm schools.
And I mean that sincerely.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:44am PT
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I was home schooled 'til 6th grade... if you home school 'em, do it til college. Transitioning into how you act socially in public school was difficult, even more so considering it was middle school.
Yup, those were absolutely terrible years. Glad I got my growth spurt early.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 22, 2012 - 12:48am PT
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strikes me as a valid question.
cognitive dissonance at its finest I suppose....
Mr Arrogant, it wasn't a question, it was a statement. Why do people like you have to try to appear superior intellectually, and then show utter failure?
Just be honest and true, bra. Works every time.
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