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pacarockhound
Social climber
Escondido CA
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Re Thai restaurant being circled on the map Matt had -
can someone in Mammoth make sure there is a flyer there, or speak to the people who work there to see if anyone spoke to Matt?
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pacarockhound
Social climber
Escondido CA
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from Helga Walther, Oct 1st :
Someone posted on Supertopo that a hiker had written a trip report to the Minarets during the days Matt was there. I looked it up and "Anonymous" had already asked that hiker Andy (bottom of trip report) if he could contact the search team on Supertopo about possibly having met Matt on the trail. I added a post saying saying it would be great if this person did. He replied to my post and to Anonymous saying the following: Hi Anonymous. Thanks for your comment. I have been following the search for Matt on highsierratopix.com. Maverick, one of the moderators at HST, did an extensive search of the area and he posted details online. I didn't see anything while I was out there. I sincerely hope that he is found. Thanks
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Andy DOctober 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Hello Helga. I have been following the search on highsierratopix.com. I didn't see anything while I was there. I sincerely hope that he is found. Thanks, Andy.
COULD SOMEONE PASS THIS INFO ON TO THE SUPERTOPO GROUP SINCE I AM NOT SIGNED UP THERE. Thanks. Helga
Sorry if I missed this, but where did Maverick search and has it been included on google map of areas searched?
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Hi Pacarockhound,
I think Andy D, the author of the trip report to the Minarets on "Sea to summit ultralight" (not here; his report was mentioned upthread) may have been mistaken about Maverick doing an extensive search in the area.
A search of HighSierraTopix shows that Maverick did participate in that site's long thread on Matt, in which various searches were described -- maybe that's what Andy D was thinking about? Here's the thread -- I think most of the same searches are reported here and that we have them on the map:
http://www.highsierratopix.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9790
But Maverick is also on here, you could ask him. :)
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pacarockhound
Social climber
Escondido CA
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Hello Maverick,
Where have you searched and has it been included on the google map of places search and not searched?
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maverick01
climber
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Have not gone up, had planned to but haven't been able
to get time off from work. (2 jobs, very hard to get time off)
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pacarockhound
Social climber
Escondido CA
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maverick01 - understood!
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Sorry to come home and see there still hasn't been any resolution...was hoping something would turn up while I was away.
Though I didn't know Matt, I have been really bummed about this. On Friday 9/27/13, I left a note for Matt on the summit of Kilimanjaro. Berg heil, adventurer.
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maverick01
climber
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Finally getting a few days off and am in the process of
putting together a search team of HST members for the
16-20th, if weather cooperates.
If any Supertopo members are interested in joining please
contact me via PM. This may be one of the last chances of
pulling off a larger search before some major system comes
in and closes everything down for the season.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Detective Toronzi managed to get the library records. I don't know how he managed it; he did say it was difficult and he had to go through hoops.
They are very tedious to go through - every ad, picture, element of a page is all listed. Hard to find the actual content. Plus it's 25,000 pages of data for one day.
In any case, it was still very easy to find Matt's session. It started around 10:50 am PST - he logged on and started looking at the school district website where he teaches.
I followed that entire one hour session and think I was pretty thorough - I'm at about page 10,000 of the 25,000 trying to find if he bought another session (every PC is listed separate so it could be much further down depending what machine...and that's IF he bought another session)
Anyways, here are some of the links he visited besides the water intoxication post - that post was actually at the end of his session.
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=65684
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/best-improvised-rope-solo-setup/108243432
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/is-philly-a-climbers-city/108185033__2
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/lost-gear-on-madame-g/108236942
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/what-to-climb-at-lovers-leap/108244290
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB3/recent-u-and-v-notch-conditions-end-of-july-t65668.html **
**I am fairly certain he sent and/or received an email through Summitpost to someone at this point - relative tags are there indicating he did.
In addition, there was a search on medical issues - most likely minor irritations - there was one search on Plantar Warts and another on Hammer Toe. In conjunction with the one one Hammer Toe (possibly), there was an unsuccessful search on one of the climbing sites on "Boot lacing Techniques".
Aside from the above, he researched his trip to Colorado. He was obviously anxious to move on. He got driving directions from Mammoth Lakes to Sand Dunes National Park, Mosca Colorado. He also looked up a handful of climbs to do out there. I didn't write down all those.
Last but not least, he looked up the NewBelgium brewing company in CO. He appears to have placed an order for something in the online shop. Could have just been a gift certificate or something. There was also a relative search to find local joints that serve the beer: http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/locator.aspx
You'll see if you pop in Mammoth Lakes there's only about 3 places that serve it in house, and then a few more where you can carry it out.
Unfortunately that's all I've come across at this point. Wanted to keep everyone in the loop though. My thoughts after looking through is that he was just killing time at the library. He didn't seem to be focused on a local destination.
Detective Toronzi has also submitted a court order for the phone records but that may take longer to get.
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kenish
Gym climber
Orange County, CA
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Great new info, though it calls into question the library's early comments about the unavailability of the info. Even if the web browsing doesn't have any revelations, it will put that uncertainty to rest.
BTW the brewery website comes up with 23 locations in town that serve or sell the brand...even the Shell station and Rite-Aid are listed! The brewery website says that tour tickets have to be reserved in advance. http://www.newbelgium.com/brewery/tasting-room/visit-us.aspx Could that be what Matt "ordered"? They are in Ft. Collins (north of Denver)
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Supermama
Social climber
pa
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tdg119...Wow Tiffany! Great job! You have been very busy. I'll take a look at what you have posted. If you need help, please pm me. I am writing a lit review for my thesis, but should be finished tomorrow.
maverick01
Awesome offer to help organize a search party! October 16th-20th...can anyone else join in? Do you want this posted on other climbing forums? I can help with that. Just give me the word.
Supermama
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kenish
Gym climber
Orange County, CA
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FYI Supermama, there's a chance of snow this Wed. and more likely rain. Hope the weather holds for a physical search.
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Supermama
Social climber
pa
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Kenish...let's hope the weather cooperates. Keep me posted.
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maverick01
climber
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Yes, please do post Supermama, I have posted on Whitneyzone and Rockcreek Forum.
I am aware of the weather, if there is significant snow on the ground or a system
within 2 days of our exit, I will call this search off, safety of our group is my number
one concern. Mav
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pacarockhound
Social climber
Escondido CA
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maverick 01 Is there any point in inviting people to search from facebook pages of hiking groups? I sent out MattGreenemissing poster several weeks ago to many places. Perhaps you know the best places/people to invite....
Do you plan to go anywhere near the Rettenbacher's grave site? I think that is the west side of Banner...
Vegasclimber, that is wonderful that you left a note for Matt on Mt Kilimanjaro (sp?). Do you have a photo of that you could post here?
Tiffany, glad you got some info re internet searches Matt did at library. Perhaps there will be info soon re his Hotmail account....
Tiffany and family, I know how hard it must be to keep up the energy to move forward with gathering information, at the same time that you are missing Matt. My thoughts are with you.
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maverick01
climber
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We need to get the word out every way possible and not limit ourselves to any
particular forums, many folks cancel at the last moment. We also need local folks
to transport us from the Mammoth Lodge to the trailhead, and pick us up Sunday
afternoon because of the goverment shutdown.
Need folks to please answer the following questions and include the answers when
sending requests to come on board.
Level of experience:
1- Backpacking on trail
2- Backpacking with some xcountry experience class 1-2)
3- Backpacking with xcountry experience (class 2-3), good, navigational skills
4- Backpacking with xcountry experience (class 3), peakbagging, snow travel
(climbing), glacier travel
Do you have any emergency signal devices: SPOT, SatPhone, PLB
Do you have a GPS?
Are you familiar with the Minarets? If yes, what areas have you been to, camped or climbed?
How many days can you come for?
List any medical (doctor, nurse, EMT, wilderness first aid course), SAR, law enforcement, or
military background?
We need all levels of people, the Shadow to Ediza corridor needs to be combed too.
Thanks,
Peter
PS Contact info pagoston@prioryca.org
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pacarockhound
Social climber
Escondido CA
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Maverick01 - This is a partial list of facebook pages I sent mattgreene missing poster to. I will include your above list of questions re hiking experience, etc. and tell them to contact you ----- where?
Mountainesque
Appalachian Trail (4 or 5 sites)
San Gorgonio Wilderness Assoc
Hundred Peaks assoc
The High Sierra
MLA
John Muir Trail
San Diego Hiking Group
Pacific Crest Trail
Backpacking
Mt Whitney
Calif Mountaineering Group
West Coast Mountains
Sierra Mountains Group
a bunch of nature groups
How about Mammoth newspaper?
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Peter - should we ask for volunteers on Facebook? Do you need any gear?
1. Water purification tablets, water filter straws, micro filters, etc.
2. Compass, GPS (Inyo wilderness)
3. Trail tape, marker
4. Powerbars, MREs, Beverage pkgs, emergency food, etc.
5. Hex heater, stoves, etc.
6. Fire starters (wp matches, mag, etc.)
7. Binoculars
8. Tent, Bivy, Ponchos, etc.
9. Bear Cans
10. Water Bottles, camelbacks, etc.
11. Radios
12. Backpacks, dry sacks, etc.
13. Survival knifes
14. Medical/first aid kits
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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A view of the Ritter Range from Minaret Summit Oct. 5, 2013
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