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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
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Ron there is nothing at all wrong with saying (or posting) a word like Vagina. Do they scare you?
It is the spewing dogma hate and lies that are the problem.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
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Bob D'A writes:
"So what when over my head???"
One more time, just for you, Bob. This "when" over your head:
"I think using numbers to account for individuals, engaged in actions as individuals, for reasons as unique as a fingerprint, and then lumping them all into one group is foolish. And this is the perfect example."
"I'm saying this is a perfect example of how one can gather numbers together in the right grouping to advance any point one wishes, no matter how unreasonable."
I don't know how much more clear I could have made it for you. Too bad I must have caught you on a down day, or something.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
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Rong is blowing a gasket. :-)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:30pm PT
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Chaz it didn't go over my head...you say the FBI numbers existed and they didn't...you never once condemn the Manzanita Man for his posts...you agreed that the numbers/data existed.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
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Rong is blowing a gasket. :-) No that would be a Jackalope. :-)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
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One more thing "when" over your head:
"Numbers all add up to nuthin'" which is my whole point in a sentence.
Thanks, Neil Young!
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
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rSin was curious. Sometimes he actually appeared lucid. Other times it was a WTF post. I wondered if he was posting from a Smartphone and had fat thumbs.
And Chaz here is a number that did add up to something; one. One less white suprma-racist on the forum. Thanks CMac!
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
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Try harder.
Ron sometimes you come across like a guy insisting on his right to do an aid nailup of the 1st pitch of Serenity Crack. Though the climbing world has long ago embraced clean climbing you insist on clinging to a discredited past.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
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Chaz wrote: One more thing "when" over your head:
"Numbers all add up to nuthin'" which is my whole point in a sentence.
Numbers do add when the data is collected and use in a honest scientific way.
Happens all the time.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
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I miss you Farouk. Why can't we just tell everybody about us? I'm tired of keeping this special secret.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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Bob D'A writes:
"Numbers do add when the data is collected and use in a honest scientific way."
When you have millions of free people all doing their own individual thing for their own unique reasons, grouping them together based on something as superficial and broad as race serves no purpose. Worse, will almost always be used as a reason to deceive.
Most people don't give a damn what someone's race is, because it serves no useful purpose.
BTW, Barack Obama was all in favor of SYG back when he was Illinois State Senator Obama. Voted "yes" on that one. Not "present".
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
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BTW, Barack Obama was all in favor of SYG back when he was Illinois State Senator Obama. Voted "yes" on that one. Not "present".
good for him!
He also signed into law more pro gun legislation than any President in decades.
He lied to the those who thought he would be "soft" on criminals.
Just as Osama
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 23, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
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Chaz wrote: When you have millions of free people all doing their own individual thing for their own unique reasons, grouping them together based on something as superficial and broad as race serves no purpose.
Which the FBI does not do...that is the point that really goes over your head.
Manzanita was using his own distorted numbers to further his sick little agenda...you took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 23, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
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BWAAAHAHA
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 23, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
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SB2386
Look it up.
You'll note I wrote "all in favor of SYG", which is exactly what his co-sponsorship demonstrates.
I'm getting tired of having to write things twice. How about you just read twice, if that's what it takes?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Jul 23, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
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I did, nothing like Florida's law.
Explained in link above.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Jul 23, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
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Cmac should ban all BULLIES regardless of political leanings
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 23, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
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I did look it up
Actually, Senator Obama co-sponsored the bill, and the bill was to strengthen already-existing self-defense legislation.
The Illinois self-defense law is nothing like "Stand your ground" laws in other states, and actually falls into the "castle doctrine" of law that only allows you to use deadly force to protect yourself inside of your home. States like Florida take the concept of the "castle doctrine" and turn it into a traveling force field of sorts with their "Stand your ground" laws. They did so because they believe that not only should people have the right to defend themselves in their homes, they should have the right to defend themselves and/or others outside of their homes http://www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/In-2004-Illinois-State-Senator-Barry-Obama-Sponsored-A-Stand-Your-Ground-Bill-(SB-2386)/2204064
your attempt to say Illinois and Florida laws are identical on this is flat wrong
but good of you to point out how the President supported strengthening this law!
oh, you meant your post as somehow a criticism of the President didn't you?
oops, that didn't go very well
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