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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:27pm PT
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Dr. F-
I believe in tolerance and respect for all people no matter how bizarre their beliefs may be. If I think there's any chance of changing their mind in the direction of more tolerance then I try but I never try to convert anyone to a particular way of thinking. I also know as a professional educator that you will never teach anyone anything if you start out by creating a hostile environment and then disrespect them as human beings.
You totally misunderstand and then misinterpret religion. Religion is not a battle of wits nor is it about logic. It appeals to a whole other side of the brain, the same one that creates and appreciates art and music. I doubt you would attack Mozart or Van Gogh for being irrational - or maybe you would.
Religion represents the highest aspirations of human kind and often with very beneficial results. I also doubt that you would prefer for all the people with beliefs you don't support to suddenly drop their charitable works around the world such as hospitals, nursing homes and orphanages, because the belief system that supports them is irrational by your standards - or would you?
Science is supposed to look at each case on its own merits, yet you choose the most antiquated, culture bound, and unscientific examples possible always and then try to say they represent all of Christianity. When Christians then tell you they don't think like that, you tell them that they should! You're tilting at windmills here.
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MH2
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:35pm PT
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Most obliging, MH.
I would follow jstan's lead as long as the engineer is a ladybug and ladybugs ride for free.
Get on board, little children.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:40pm PT
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Mighty Hiker!
Hilarious.
Especially:
Communism.
Hinduism
Atheism.
Agnosticism.
Love it.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 11:48pm PT
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:57pm PT
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Wernerism: There are many isms, or trains, to ism.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:09am PT
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Karl!
Pres, Ron Reagan bought his ranch or maybe it was another home somewhere and immediately changed the address from '666'!
There is a Big Five Sporting Good's store with that address that I have been going to here in S.D.County for close to forty years with that address. '666' is always real prominent on the Receipt.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:21am PT
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John 9:28, And they reviled him, saying, “You are his disciple, but we are disciples of Moses.
Matt 23:2, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat,
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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Gobeeism: The train will never stop running, and is undoubtedly one-track.
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MisterE
Trad climber
Canoga Bark! CA
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:18am PT
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Brian Hench
Trad climber
Anaheim, CA
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:21am PT
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MisterE, you should take a trip to Banned Kamp for that juvenile excursion.
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MisterE
Trad climber
Canoga Bark! CA
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:24am PT
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Do it then - don't just talk about it.
I am sick of the sectarian BS
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:51am PT
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Read the thread topic. If you don't like it stay out. Pretty simple huh?
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Oct 28, 2009 - 08:30am PT
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you cant quantify a smile...
....take the opacity of eternity times the resistance of infinity, and divide it by the volume of zen.
hmmm. flawed logic? maybe. provable? only within a crooked heart.
silly? definitely.
you don't have to believe like me.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Oct 28, 2009 - 08:47am PT
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"Heaven"
Heaven is a happy place,
without the pain of trials here,
where the love of God is always near.
Jesus paid the price for us down here.
It will be a wonder to behold,
to live the life for evermore.
But it will be a little less,
without you there,
a little less without your care,
without your love to share,
a little less without you there!
GoBee
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 09:31am PT
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Heaven, Talkingheads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNdMc6wGtU
Songwriters: Harrison, Jerry;Byrne, David
Everyone is trying to get to the bar.
The name of the bar, the bar is called Heaven.
The band in Heaven they play my favorite song.
They play it one more time, they play it all night long.
Oh heaven, heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.
Heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.
There is a party, everyone is there.
Everyone will leave at exactly the same time.
When this partys over it will start again.
It will not be any different, it will be exactly the same.
Heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.
Heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.
When this kiss is over it will start again.
It will not be any different, it will be exactly
the same.
It's hard to imagine that nothing at all
could be so exciting, could be this much fun.
Oh, heaven, heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.
Oh, heaven, heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Oct 28, 2009 - 09:42am PT
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im sure that al-qaeda has their own
chant glorifying their belief system.
wayward zeal. close-mindedness. judgement of others.
and action based on such.
that's the team that is religion.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 11:46am PT
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Norwegian!
I fully agree.
That is religion.
But Jesus Christ is a relationship.
Just you and Him.
Nothing closed about Him.
Everyone is welcome.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that none should perish..."
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 11:47am PT
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and you get to Decide who "He" is!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:17pm PT
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I heard a good one on NPR the other day. They were talking about how people ignore the science behind global warming, evolution, etc., but when they get sick they have no problem accepting medical science to fix them.
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