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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Feb 23, 2007 - 11:36am PT
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Malcolm hit the nail right on the head ...
This is a great place to kick things around and I wouldn't like it to be changed or sanitised in any way. The mix of legends and joe blow's is what makes it such a unique place that other forums would die for.
There are plenty of other places to post specific questions about gear, routes, etc. The difference here is that you may actually get a response from someone who not only climbed the route but may of actually put up the first ascent.
Thanks for Chris for providing this feature and keeping it real. We don't need no damn pretty icons!
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kev
climber
CA
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Feb 23, 2007 - 11:54am PT
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So there are probably four larges groups here.
1) Those who don't care (withing reason) what's posted here
2) Those who want only climbing stuff
3) Those who like the mix of stuff
4) Those who really want mostly the non climbing stuff.
There is a way to keep everyone happy. Simply add a box which the user must check when entering the a msg labeling it climbing or not climbing related. Additionally add a switch that the forum reader can select that allows them to see only climbing related stuff, non climbing related stuff, or all posts. This allows everyone to have what they want. Also it would be pretty easy to self police this. The ammount of coding needed to do this is little (hell I'd even do it)...
What do you think??
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 23, 2007 - 12:37pm PT
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kev,
One of the beauties of this forum is the surprise you get when the thread drifts from a route beta request, to first ascent stories, to annecdotes of the personal hygiene of the belayer, to reminiscing about the celebratory bottle of wine that was busted out at the summit. I love this place because you never know where you're going to end up. It's kind of like listening to Trey Anastasio instead of the Allman Brothers. They both take you on an incredible musical journey but when listening to the Allman Brothers you know that you'll end up comfortably back where you started. With Trey, on the other hand, you never know where you're going, let alone where you've been. Sometimes I'm in the mood for wandering around with Trey and sometimes just crankin' up the volume for another session of Hot Lanta is the shitz.
This is not an easy forum to participate in. You need a sense of adventure coupled with a bit of recklessness and some humor. If you can't handle being poked fun of; if you are afraid to smack down someone who gets in your face, or if you if you like straight, level trails and jug hauls in the gym, then this forum probably isn't for you.
Chris, please don't mess with this place.
Mal
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climber
The City of Lost Angels
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Feb 23, 2007 - 12:48pm PT
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Ditto, Mal. You da Man!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Feb 23, 2007 - 12:53pm PT
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Chris, don't change a thing. What you've created here is a thing of beauty. Actually, it's the people here that make it so beautiful but you gave them the 'forum' to do it. Thanks.
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Dickly
Trad climber
Utah
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Jul 28, 2007 - 01:05pm PT
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can we get back to sushi now? I like sushi. nekkid women too.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 28, 2007 - 01:37pm PT
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Why bump a long dead thread and do nothing but suggest we get back to something else?
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 28, 2007 - 03:08pm PT
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Thank you, Chris. I think you are taking the right steps. Some won't like it, but most will, I believe. It will be a better place. People can not only share campfire stories, history, news, etc., but they can sound off and be funny and sometimes purposefully silly or stupid, but those who have nothing but malice, profanity, contention for contention's sake, and similar kinds of agendas in mind can be sent along their way...
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 28, 2007 - 03:10pm PT
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I haven't checked to see if this has been said before, but maybe you could develop an easy method so that when a thread is started clearly for no other reason than to be offensive, you can prevent it from being "bumped." That way it will fade away out of sight quickly... The person will have had their "say," but it won't have to keep coming up in everyone's faces.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jul 28, 2007 - 03:50pm PT
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Pat - this thread died along time ago (original post was 2005!). Check the dates. Nothing was done about it because nothing is going to be done about it.
Fatrad is right (WTF?!?!?! I just said that?!?!?!?) - this place is near perfect and it ain't gonna change.
Edit: Furthermore, keep in mind that any modification to this forum requires programming. It ain't that broken around here so there's really no reason for Chris to invest in having the programming done.
Dicky - what's up with the sushi comment? Do the sushi threads bother you? just wondering....
Double Edit: Pat - what you may not realize is things were a lot worse around here not that long ago. In a relative sense you should be happy with the way things are. It's pretty darn tame all things considered.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jul 28, 2007 - 11:01pm PT
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for the past couple months I only started threads that were climbing/outdoor related - no problem. I started a parody thread because of all the silly threads and the political stuff - quite a bit. Whatever the game, I'm happy to play - sometimes it seems like a lot of nonsense - but then it evolves into some really worthwhile climbing history stuff/trip report or similar. I kinda tend to agree with Mal and stich, though, overall.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
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Agreed... It's getting harder to sift through the junk to get to the quality
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
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I greatly respect the goal of forum with minimal moderation and subdivision, with the expectation that participants self-regulate their contribution. It's a worthy high road to be on.
However, it just doesn't seem like 'self-regulation' works here...as mentioned, there's a shiteload of OT topics (waaaaaay OT & or needlessly repetitive), and each person seems to feel it's there gawd-given right to post anything they want, and if it undermines the overall intent of this site & forum, eff 'em.
There's an awful lot of great content here that reflects all that is good about the climbing community...sadly, it too often reflects a lot of the self-oriented negativity, too.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
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As much as we all whine about climbing vs everything else, the climbing stuff still falls away like dead leaves much of the time.
It will not be the same if Chris holds the reins too tightly...
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
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The comic cragsman photoshop jobs are ALWAYS relevant to something!
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
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I'm all for off-topic stuff and funny/silly threads. But it's getting to where people won't just comment in a thread, they respond with a new thread.
It's just attention grabbing- the boob thing is an example- there are like 20 threads about the same thing.
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Some Random Guy
climber
San Franpsycho (a.k.a. a token of my extreme)
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Jan 22, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
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damn boobies! they'll get ya every time
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 22, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
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It's just attention grabbing- the boob thing is an example- there are like 20 threads about the same thing.
Actually there was only one until t*r had her post-feminist meltdown. I can only imagine what Kathleen Hanna or Gloria Steinham would say.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 22, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
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So the boobs got Nuked. BFD, life goes on
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