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dirtbag
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 04:05pm PT
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LOL!
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kelly slater
climber
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:09pm PT
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dirtbag, the exhaust from riding in the back of the short bus with the window down has had some repercussions. I'm sorry. Liberalism is not a family value. You are the one that judged me and slingin names around. I accepted you are just a kook. Sorry all your friends will not be able to be legally married. Maybe your just upset you won't be able to be best man at all the weddings. I know that is upsetting, but look at the bright side, not being able to get married won't take your friends love away from each other. Isn't that waht matters?
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kelly slater
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:12pm PT
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weschrist, please for your next pooch you get, don't let him come on your Tuesday night special gathering over at Roger's place, so he won't get the same behavior as your other dog.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:12pm PT
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Wes, why should I accept homosuexulaity when every fiber of my being says it's not right. Men were meant to be with women is the first one.
Perverting that notion only leads to other perversions, does it not?
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:13pm PT
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I can judge whoever the hell I want, Im not binded by a book of fables.... jackass!
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:15pm PT
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Perverting that notion only leads to other perversions, does it not?
No, the slope is not that slippery.
I love how kelly cant even talk about the subject! just labels people as gay and liberals. Im suspecting troll....
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:15pm PT
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Ok guy's...we can't agree..
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kelly slater
climber
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:17pm PT
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S powers is a kook too. Are you stoked in alaska, move up there for the ratio? Good luck and keep it away from me.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:18pm PT
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nita's right (well, left) and I'm done here...vote as you will, heathens!
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:19pm PT
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In the vice-presidential debate, moderator Gwen Ifill asked Mr. Biden directly whether he supports same-sex marriage.
"Do you support gay marriage?" she asked.
"No, Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage," said Mr. Biden. "We do not support that." Were this actually Mr. Biden and Mr. Obama's position, they would be for Proposition 8. But they are not.
"If I lived in California, I'd clearly vote against Prop. 8," Mr. Biden told Miss DeGeneres.
say it ain't so joe...or say it is so...just make up your mind
by the way, dirtbag, which joe biden are you voting for?
"Blue, morals have changed. At one time it was okay to own slaves. Should we go back to that?"
yes, morality does change because morality is, by definition, determined by the majority; so i think it's smarter to make a distinction between morals and ethics, with ethics being a system that does not change...it's better to live one's life according to an unchangeable ethical code, not a changing moral code...see, according to your preferred moral relativism, if morality changed again and the majority determined that we could own slaves, you'd agree...but i believe what's wrong is wrong...now that doesn't mean i'm always (or mostly) able to live up to my code, but my weakness does not diminish the standard...like my inability to climb 5.12 does not make the goal any less worthy
so let's look at the consequences of a changing moral code: are we better off that women are now free to act with the same sexual brazenness that once only men could display? are we better off now that marriage is not considered a societal prerequisite for having children? are we better off now that the sanctity of marriage has been reduced to a simple contract without even the binding power of a gym membership? are we better off now that any child who can log onto a computer can gain access to the most brutal and vile pornography available? are we better off now that our inclination to "define deviancy down" has provided a mass market for "artists" who produce misogynist "music" that influences 6-year-olds to refer to their female classmates as hos and bitches? of course, i could go on, but you get my point
now, on a side note, i could be wrong (i'm no expert on religions) but i think christianity was the first religion to declare slavery wrong...it was certainly a christian (william wilberforce) inspired by his christianity that is responsible for abolishing slavery (at least in the western world, not to suggest that makes us better or anything)
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kelly slater
climber
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:20pm PT
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Vote YES on PROP 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everybody get out and enjoy your day
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:26pm PT
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S powers is a kook too. Are you stoked in alaska, move up there for the ratio? Good luck and keep it away from me.
BWAHHHHAAAAAhahhahahah!!!!!!!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:31pm PT
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bluering- You sure that isn't just your anus tingling?
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 04:52pm PT
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"dirtbag, the exhaust from riding in the back of the short bus with the window down has had some repercussions. I'm sorry. Liberalism is not a family value. You are the one that judged me and slingin names around. I accepted you are just a kook. Sorry all your friends will not be able to be legally married. Maybe your just upset you won't be able to be best man at all the weddings. I know that is upsetting, but look at the bright side, not being able to get married won't take your friends love away from each other. Isn't that waht matters? "
LOL!
I never said it was a value.
But love, tolerance: those are family values. Maybe not in your family, or under your God, but they are.
Judge you? Sure I judge people. I called you a hater, because that is what I see. You don't like gay people, I stand by that.
SO go ahead, call me a kook.
I call you a Bible thumping fundamentalist twit. So there.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Oct 26, 2008 - 04:57pm PT
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I don't think anybody here hates gay people. I didn't hear anybody invoke the hate word.
Just don't want marriage perverted. They can have civil unions with full rights. What's wrong with that?
Marriage has and always should be defined as the the union of a man and a woman. You want something else, call it something else.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Oct 26, 2008 - 05:01pm PT
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Seperate but equal still doesn't work.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Oct 26, 2008 - 05:06pm PT
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Jay, it's a different, 'not equal', kind of relationship. It's not equal. Not everthing is. And if we go there, where does it stop?
That is the definition of perversion isn't it?
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Oct 26, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
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Jay, it's a different, 'not equal', kind of relationship. It's not equal. Not everthing is. And if we go there, where does it stop?
I almost slipped and fell down...
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Oct 26, 2008 - 05:43pm PT
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just like men and women are NOT equal, and thank god (or evolution, if you prefer) for that
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Oct 26, 2008 - 05:46pm PT
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What amazes me is the the proponents of tolerance use 'skank' and 'not worthy of skin' refernces to women. (Wes and Riley referring to Cindy McCain and Palin).
I shudder when I think what would happen if 'your kind' made decisions for all of us less worthy people. Maybe Christians are so intolerant they should be put into re-education camps and if they don't submit to your tolerance, they should be eliminated.
I mean, that's getting rid of judgemental and intolerant people, right? Judging others on their behavior is bad and intolerant. We should stop that at all cost. If they will not submit to our tolerance, they should be eliminated.
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