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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Bump this to the top--GO AWAY SPAMBOTS!!!!!!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jun 29, 2011 - 12:38pm PT
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Palin/Bachman Bump
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10b4me
Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
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bump
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Tahoe climber
climber
Davis these days
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Just re-read CMac's original post, and skimmed down a few for curiosity's sake to Doug Robinson's reply.
So cool to see that cat responding and approving!
Something he said resonates with me; that about if standing at an actual campfire when folks got all fired up and discussing politics, et al, he'd take his beer and go to the other side of the campfire where hopefully other people were still talking about climbing.
Very cool
TC
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briham89
Big Wall climber
los gatos. ca
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Thanks for bumping this.....bump
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Forums have a life cycle. They start off hot and on topic with lots of interesting people and commentary. Then they go off topic and are dominated by a few. Then they die. ST is probably past the peak.
I am sure that Chris Mac can see the history of traffic on the forum. It would be interesting to see what it looks like.
I stumbled onto SummitPost 10 years ago (member # 2312 of 26585 as of today) and loved it. Famous climbers and lots of cool posts. It basically died a few years ago.
ST will die too and may have already started to do so. The prime topics have been discussed, the old stories told and some of the best, like Doug, seldom post anymore.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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"ST will die and may have already started to do so."
Oh, happy dagger! We're all gonna die, Banquo.
But there's a lot of us would deny that.
Climbers need to feel immortal, otherwise...
This Post is a great example of rising from the dead.
Someone's ghoulish enough to ressurect this.
We should consider all of us to be in charge of rescuing topics.
It's not Chris' job, it's all of ours.
It is our forum, directed by CMac (the most gentle of hosts, I must bump that sentiment), but as good guests we are expected to pitch in and help with the dishes wonce in a while.
We could do with spelling police, though. It's atrocious around here.
If good spelling were good protection, most of us would be dead. LOL
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Summitpost... died cause a few MODERATIORS took over and started chopping up other peoples posts, causing a huge confusion. It was a lot like ST in that it had "regulars" who would toss in thier .02$ worth - within seconds of the original post. These few were very nasty and mean with comments and outright lies. It was sad to see it go that way because lots of international climbers used it.
C MAC for president 2012
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Is this a non-climbing thread? (OT)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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And I thought I was the only other poster that read Macbeth.
The Taco cannot die! With all the geezers the smell would be terrible!
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slodog
Trad climber
ontario canada
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thank you chris for providng this forum -i'm bassically a lurker and i love the trip reports-i rarely pay any attention to the nonsense threads never mind reply to them-i guess its hard to have an open forum without that bs-but it sure wont keep me away cause the meat of what goes on here is informative and inspiring-thank you
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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what he said:
Dec 14, 2007 - 10:13am PT
Thank you, thank you, gentle Chris Mac.
I'm a relative newcomer. Posting six months, after lurking for a couple of years. Probably pretty typical.
This forum has changed my life. I mean the daily way I live, cycling by here to have a look, often several times a day. I mean connecting with so many folks I haven't talked with in decades. Really meaningful, stimulating idea-churning, campfire talk. I've quoted exciting stuff you guys have said here in articles I've written. Last night I read aloud Jello's amazing Pumori story to my household after dinner.
I've wondered about the politics and the slander taking up bandwidth here, and often enough I've simply taken my beer and walked over to the other side of the campfire where there was still climbing talk. Chris' suggestion that we cool the flaming and the way-OT stuff just a bit is about as reasonable and as mild a request from our benefactor as I can imagine.
Thanks again, Chris. You are, to use your own word, Cool!
doug robinson
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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this place is TAME compared to some sites in my industry,,, TAME...
...even when compared to some other climbing sites.
Curt
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Jim Hefner
climber
La Verne, CA
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Not too poop in my own room but....
Banquo: Forums have a life cycle. They start off hot and on topic with lots of interesting people and commentary. Then they go off topic and are dominated by a few. Then they die. ST is probably past the peak.
I am sure that Chris Mac can see the history of traffic on the forum. It would be interesting to see what it looks like.
I stumbled onto SummitPost 10 years ago (member # 2312 of 26585 as of today) and loved it. Famous climbers and lots of cool posts. It basically died a few years ago.
ST will die too and may have already started to do so. The prime topics have been discussed, the old stories told and some of the best, like Doug, seldom post anymore.
I mostly agree with him...
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Anxious Melancholy
Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
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It's been said before in this thread, and I can't think of a better way to say it, this forum is like a camp fire. Im kinda a loner, so I circle around the dark perimeter and sample some of the conversations, skip the ones that don't interest me, marvel at the unceasing idiocy of humankind, and occasionally i am inspired at the rare wonders of achievement and insight.
Chris started the fire, and as a moth to flame, I am drawn. The only way to deflect
me is to extinguish the flame. Personally, I find the pleasure outweighs the pain.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Forums have a life cycle. They start off hot and on topic with lots of interesting people and commentary. Then they go off topic and are dominated by a few. Then they die. ST is probably past the peak.
Sound reasonable but just isn't true. ST was vulgar and uber-flaming back in the day. Now there are many historical figures in the sport posting here and when there is a subject of climbing topical interest, we get a great community discussion and lots of history is recorded here that is nowhere else. It's important enough that even Cerro Torre got discussed here in a serious way by participants in the controversy
But you can't have that every second. Other times you have John Long discussing God and others relating the important issue of our time. It's a campfire and an ecosystem of communication.
Anyone know of a better place?
Peace
Karl
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Hey, Anxious, good to see you're back. Hope you're doing okay.
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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For better or for worse, this is still my main haunt on the Internet. Overall the quality has gone up a lot in my opinion, thanks in large part to Dr F corralling the politics and religion and god and science stuff. I see the number of posts on the thread keep growing, and it's always somewhere near the front page in case I'm curious (it has happened a few times), but in general I don't have to get any of it on me.
The forum is working for me, there is new blood posting awesome trip reports, and I've got a backlog of my own TRs coming now that I've resolved some technical issues on my PC.
And Cmac just chimed in with a nice mapping website that directly helped plan my next week. I'm fat dumb and happy for now.
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