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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 11, 2018 - 11:19pm PT
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I can get a good nights sleep in a 96 Civic Hatchback This is what I did in high school.
How many nights a year do you get out like this?
I have to be to work Monday AM fresh and chipper, and I want to be out every wknd. I need an RV to make that happen - or I don't get out as much. I used to be tougher, but the next RV is going to have a toilet and shower - and probably be another 2-3 feet longer...
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Nov 12, 2018 - 05:27pm PT
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The Casita does take abuse a bit better than a lot of the others. 2 piece fiberglass tub construction.
I could sleep in a 96 honda if i needed to, but what is wrong with comfort and convenience and the ability to sit out bad weather pleasantly?
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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Nov 13, 2018 - 06:02am PT
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Once I lost my job as a traveling salesman when my employer went out of business. Instead of severance pay, I got to keep my company car - a Ford Taurus with about 150,000 miles on it. The first thing I did was remove the passenger seat and build something out of wood so I could sleep there. My plan was to "head west" which I did, living in the car on Magnolia Road until I ran into someone I knew who was looking for a roommate and moved in. That car was such a dog. Driving across Utah would make the engine overheat and I'd have to pull over and wait for it to cool off. Now that I'm older I need more space and drive an old blazer that needs no mods at all.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2018 - 06:33am PT
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We chose the T@B because of the quality workmanship, it should take driving abuse quite well. When we looked at trailers there was a marked difference in materials used and attention to detail.
Leaving for a month in New Zealand in two hours!
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Nov 13, 2018 - 06:38am PT
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I can get a good nights sleep in a 96 Civic Hatchback
I spent quite a few rainy nights in my 1972 Pinto hatchback, using the same method. Fold the back seats down, tilt the front seats forward, fill the well behind the front seats with gear, and you had a flat bed of seven or eight feet.
Only problem in that cozy space was the condensation accumulating on the windows and the ceiling, and dripping onto you by the morning.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 13, 2018 - 10:17am PT
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Only problem in that cozy space... The main problem I had with compact car camping is having to blow everything up to get at things. You spend a lot of time repacking and living in a disorganized nest. A trailer, I have to admit, wins in this category - being able to separate a crag approach vehicle from the camper, leaving everything set and organized.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2018 - 10:37am PT
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We’ve many of us spent nights on some miniscule ledge hugging some perv for warmth.
Most of us have gotten beyond that, too. I’m not man enough to begrudge Donini a
modicum of comfort either.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Nov 13, 2018 - 10:56am PT
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Whoa, Jim, that's gonna be a tough drive with the T@B across the Pacific. You da man!
BAd
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Nov 13, 2018 - 11:25am PT
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I’ve lived out of a Oldsmobile estate wagon, a Volvo sedan, a S-10 pickup, a Chevy van, and a Honda FIT.
More room leads to more stuff, which leads to less actual Funtime.
All this modern van life is the absolute opposite of dirtbagging.
I saw a sprinter in IC that cost more than my last two houses combined.
It would actually be cheaper to stay in nice hotels and get room service, but hey, they are “living the dream”...
I don't see any reason that climbers are obliged to be dirtbaggers. Sounds like classism to me.
Yes, more room leads to more stuff. I'm not sure how that leads to less actual funtime. Rolling out in the morning went quicker once I switched from an Accord to a van.
And if you are going to point out it possibly being cheaper to stay in a nice hotel, IC is a curious choice. Indian Creek is what, an hour drive from the nearest hotel?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2018 - 11:27am PT
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Motels have bedbugs and sundry other disgusting attributes,
not the least of which are the other ‘guests’.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Nov 13, 2018 - 11:46am PT
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If you buy a trailer with shock absorbers it bounces around a lot less.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2018 - 12:49pm PT
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Nice hotels start at like $300 / night.
Sadly, mostly true, in the US. In Europe perfectly nice motels/hotels start at like $80.
Even in expensive Norway a really nice place can be had for $150, with a killer breakfast!
Why do we always get screwed? Sorry for the drift.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Nov 13, 2018 - 01:06pm PT
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Or go to Vegas and pay for a multi billion dollar stadium for a the wealthy silver spoon traiders owner. All that money and he can’t buy a decent hair cut.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 13, 2018 - 01:08pm PT
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They just charge climbers more because they like hugging pervs.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 13, 2018 - 01:11pm PT
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I have never paid over 100 bucks a night. For $100 I am crashing in the civic. That includes SF and NYC. Came close in NY but opted for a one bed apartment for about 100 a night for a week in lower east side. Was way better than a hotel even though there was no mints on the pillow or sexy maids in heels, never mind, that was just a dream.
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Cheldric
Sport climber
Colorado Springs
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Nov 16, 2018 - 04:34am PT
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We went from backpacking and tents, to car camping tents, to old used travel trailer, to newer travel trailer - with no regrets. A good 4x4 to tow, park it, use it as a home base. The 4x4 gets us places no average motorized camping rig can go. Dog, grand-kids, climbing gear - and room to cook, shower, and sleep. (Hmmm, maybe I'm getting old?!)
Pictured here - parked in Garden Park near Shelf Road, Colorado.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Nov 16, 2018 - 11:06am PT
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^^^^^ Great pic! Makes me wanna be there.
BAd
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Nov 16, 2018 - 11:14am PT
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Coachmen Orion 24' on Ford Transit 350 chassis. 14.7mpg. (15.4 with Canadian corn-free petrol.) Suzuki VanVan 200cc machine strapped to the back.
Bear Glacier BC--on the road to Hyder AK this past July.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Nov 19, 2018 - 12:26pm PT
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I have never gotten better fuel mileage with Canadian nor U.S. corn-based fuel.
I get at least a 15% drop in mileage.
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