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crankster
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No. Tahoe
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Nov 22, 2017 - 09:22am PT
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Why now? Because after the Weinstein story women have found the environment is safer for them to come forward.
These women are credible. They aren’t seeking fame or fortune. Look at his history...
A retired Alabama police officer said she and her colleagues were told decades ago to “make sure” Roy Moore “didn’t hang around” high school cheerleaders, and confirmed previous reports that the Republican Senate candidate was banned at the time from a local mall for predatory behavior toward teenage girls.
“The rumor mill was that he liked young girls, and ... we were advised that he was being suspended from the mall because he would hang around the young girls that worked in the stores and ... really got into a place of where they say he was harassing,” former Gadsden police officer Faye Gary said Tuesday.
“We were also told to watch him at the ball games, and make sure that ... he didn’t hang around the cheerleaders,” she said.
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John M
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 09:24am PT
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The times are changing Jody. For years women were afraid to speak up.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 09:42am PT
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He wasn't running for Senate until now
He has moral obligations as a Senator, and he failed the test.
There was an investigation after he won the primary, they listened to what the women had to say after they found them.
He is a despicable LIAR
The new term for this type of Christian is Slave Master Christian,
they use the Bible to support their despicable views, like rape, child molestation, owning slaves, beating and lynching slaves, keeping the others down
Roy Moore says he first noticed his wife when she was 15 or 16 years old
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/roy-moore-kayla-kisor-15-years-old/index.html
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 09:47am PT
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When Has Trump Been Accused of Rape or Attempted Rape? Allegations Include a Child, His Wife and a Business Associate
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531
In 1994, Trump went to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped a 13-year-old girl that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.
"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2017 - 10:14am PT
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Franken has to go. He doesn't get it.
So does Moore.
The US President has a long history of sexually harassing and groping women
and not getting it
fortunately at least of the many women has managed to sue him in Federal court and just beat Trump's lawyers trying to get it dismissed, the case will continue
and the son of a b!tch Groper in Chief may well have to be disposed under oath
why did you vote for him again?
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Lituya
Mountain climber
WA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 10:15am PT
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Wow, liberals sure have come a long way these past few, errr, months. Indeed, they have somehow crossed a metaphoric ocean since the days they were happily savaging Bill Clinton's accusers and taking political action to protect America's supreme creep. "Moveon.org," anyone?
Re Roy Moore, well, here is a quote worth considering?
"The current media environment is bringing a much-needed focus to the important issue of preventing harassment in workplaces across the country. However, equally important to keep in mind in this particular moment is the principle of due process and that those accused of wrongdoing are presumed innocent unless and until an investigation establishes otherwise. In our country, we strive to honor this fundamental principle that all are entitled to due process."
Oops, sorry, that was liberal Democrat John Conyers's statement yesterday. Re himself, of course. As you were.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 10:17am PT
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Frankin should NOT STEP Down
He hasn't committed any crimes.
The women have accepted his apology
He should run next time and if his constituents have a problem they should just not vote for him.
All comics have a huge bag of past baggage, they voted for him knowing that at the beginning.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 22, 2017 - 10:41am PT
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Minnesota voters are fluky. Minneapolis and St. Paul elected Franken. the rest of the state will lean right if they vote at all. This will likely get them out.
Remeber, this is the state that elected Jesse Ventura governor.
From the New York Times Magazine one year ago...
"Ventura’s victory is the most obvious precedent for Trump’s, though the parallels are imperfect. Ventura’s was an oddly nonideological revolution: He had campaigned on a kind of empty-calorie populism, more affect than idea, and according to the exit polls, he drew almost equally from self-identified Democrats and Republicans (roughly a third of each, plus half of self-identified independents). He won voters of every income level except above $100,000 a year. He won by a wide margin the support of voters who felt their financial situation was going to get worse, but also the largest share of voters who thought their prospects were improving. It was a confounding election.
Minnesota was by most measures a prosperous, well-employed, tranquil place, as it usually is. And yet a plurality of its voters were willing to hand the state over to a wild-card political novice who had few clear plans for what to do with it."
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2017 - 11:40am PT
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born, raised and lived in Minnesota for 42 years
I can tell you from living through Jessie Ventura's campaign and term as governor
that an odd but important part of his election had to do with his saying that he would do away with the annual Snowmobile tax along with him having the name recognition of being a pro wrestler that got couch potatoes to the polls to vote for him
his victory was shocking, really shocking, from a state that traditionally has taken politics seriously and proudly, from Hubert Humphrey to Walter Mondale, mostly solidly a Democratic state
Jessie Ventura as governor acted pretty much as expected - he was a boob, a guy who knew nothing at all about how state government works, he needed a strong staff to keep a leash on his often embarrassing public speaking -
he was elected because a certain segment of the population, much like nowadays who voted for Donald Trump, simply did not care that he was grossly intellectually unqualified to be governor, did not care how he embarrassed the state, and voted for him largely because they felt he was gonna "shake things up"
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Lituya
Mountain climber
WA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 11:56am PT
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Frankin should NOT STEP Down
He hasn't committed any crimes.
The women have accepted his apology
He should run next time and if his constituents have a problem they should just not vote for him.
All comics have a huge bag of past baggage, they voted for him knowing that at the beginning.
Ummmm, wow?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2017 - 12:26pm PT
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Ummmm, wow?
so, um why a "wow"?
not a wow for those who voted for Trump and those who will now vote for Roy Moore
both of whom have a long history of sexual abuse accusations from multiple women
but then, both Trump and Moore have been vetted for decades, the voting public has been long aware of their issues with women and chose to ignore them in voting
so why is it a "wow" when it is suggested that voters would make those same decisions in choosing to vote for Al Franken?
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Nov 22, 2017 - 01:07pm PT
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Frankin did a tastless, senseless stunt, but this IS America and having come clean, we are obliged to give him a second chance because people have recovered from worse actions. One of the things that get lost here is perspective and scale. That is, the need to consider anything in its proper size. A hang nail is not an atomic bomb. And all infractions against another gender are not equal, as is the case with anything in the real world. Those who insist in all-or-nothing thinking are caught in a thought distortion. Contrary to the pledges of zealots, bad taste does not feed "rape culture," any more than weed leads to heroine.
Right sized. That's the operate word.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 01:35pm PT
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How about the bestiality projection that Cosmic suffers.
These right wingers are obsessed with projecting their perversions onto others
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:32pm PT
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sorry but, anyone who voted for Trump to be the President of the Untied States...
has zero claim to morality, has zero credibility to now judging others
Donald Trump was THE most vetted, most well known for decades, Presidential candidate
everyone who paid any attention during the campaign, who heard the tape, threw morality, threw judgement, out the window when they still voted for him, period
like Minnesota voting for a fuking wrestler for governor, so did you vote for Trump
you own every single daily embarrassment, every cringe on the world stage
every childish, kindergarten tweet
you would not vote for a Democrat for nothing, leave the Clintons out of this
you had a choice, you could have chosen not to vote, but you voted for Trump, deal with it
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John M
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:34pm PT
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The clintons are certainly part of the problem. But the problem is multitudes bigger then they are. It spans centuries, if not thousands of years. It takes a lot more then a few trainings starting in the 80s to create the groundswell that is happening now. It takes generations growing up with a new mindset. And men are still very powerful and able to squash a lot of opposition. Just look at how long Bill Cosby shut women up. We have made gains, but there is more to do.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:38pm PT
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Christina Wilkie
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@christinawilkie
*As a journalist, this is borderline offensive
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8:06AM: White House makes pool reporter issue a correction to say "The president will NOT have a low-key day and has a full schedule of meetings and phone calls."
9::26AM: *The president goes golfing
7:47 AM - Nov 22, 2017
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:39pm PT
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Fresh off his endorsement of a child molester, Trump flees to Mar-a-Lago
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Lituya
Mountain climber
WA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:39pm PT
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Ummmm, wow?
so, um why a "wow"?
not a wow for those who voted for Trump and those who will now vote for Roy Moore
both of whom have a long history of sexual abuse accusations from multiple women
but then, both Trump and Moore have been vetted for decades, the voting public has been long aware of their issues with women and chose to ignore them in voting
so why is it a "wow" when it is suggested that voters would make those same decisions in choosing to vote for Al Franken?
Stand-alone, Mr. Fry’s is a position most women I know might take issue with. Especially his so what “he apologized” nonsense. Hard to see past the libbubble, I get it. Especially from CA.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
WA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:51pm PT
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and conservatives are surprised that they have lost all leadership in regard to morality...
Funny guy. I’m sure Planned Parenthood agrees.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 02:53pm PT
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sorry but, anyone who voted for Trump to be the President of the Untied States...
has zero claim to morality, has zero credibility to now judging others
Now that kind of horsesh!t is always to be expected from, a drug-addled brainwashed politard.
He even called the United States untied states, lol
What an idiot
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