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philo
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I guess Brady's brain was a gun free zone.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2015 - 08:52pm PT
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Things seem to be going quite well here.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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SUPREME COURT LETS STAND GUN STORAGE REQUIREMENT, BAN ON HOLLOW POINT AMMO
On June 8 [2015], the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) chose not to overturn two gun controls in San Francisco, one of which requires gun owners to lock their guns up in their homes and another which bans hollow point ammunition.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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"The 'reasoning' (lol) against gun restriction laws betrays its stupidity once again."
You're surprised ineffective pointless laws don't have more support?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Y'all might want to look into what happens legally when someone uses a gun against [a white person] in self-defense [Alito's favorite] in his own house.
Of course non-white intruders are treated differently. As it should be, right?
Gang-members by definition are not white, which is troubling for the Aryan Nation, but it's their choice.
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In any event if you want to prevent a lot of gun carnage in the U.S., just leave it to the insurance companies.
They certainly used to (until the dread Obamacare) determine many folks right to live or die, no?
You wanna gun in yo house, you pay the premium.
The "free" market will rule, if just given a chance.
According to the New England Journal of Medicine, the risk of homicide increases by 40% for those who live in a home that contains a gun. Since insurance companies are all about risk assessment, they may adjust your rates based on this statistic and raise them, enforce safety requirements about storage, or they may decide not to offer you coverage. If you have a gun, but also have a criminal record involving use of a gun, the insurance company may raise your premium costs or opt not to extend coverage for you. It will depend on your company, the agent you work with, and your personal gun use and past history.
Dare I say, stoopid American, non-insurance company workers?
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Gang-members by definition are not white...
Says who?
The Biggest, Oldest and by far the worst crime wise and sellers of illegal guns gang in the US, is/are:
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zBrown
Ice climber
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They are in a gang, and by definition, not white and safe to shoot.
Read what I said, don't try to think it through.
Cliff notes. The first part is just the setup. The real solution is in the insurance industry.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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California Bar Association..?
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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By "definition"?
They are the epitome and foundation of the definition of ... "a gang". They have just been under the disguise of calling themselves a "Club" since 1948.
And you would NOT want any of those Motherfkers breaking into your house and you not being armed to the teeth. They do NOT fk around. Period.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Y'all better take this insurance issue seriously. It is going to be.
You have to have car insurance, right?
Gun owners will soon find it impossible to purchase insurance without all the "stuff" that many are so adament about not being implememented now.
Safes, lockups, background checks ....
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Why this mother didn't recognize that her son was a threat, that's mind blowing.
Now we're gettin' onto the same page.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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And who is going to enforce the "safes and Lockups"?
When was the last time your car insurance agent came out to your house and did a full inspection on your vehicle/s? When?
I have NEVER had an insurance agent EVER look over any of my vehicles/motorcycles.
Keep dreaming.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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They won't have to (though I did have an agent come to my house once and do a walk through). The penalty for failure to comply will be too onerous.
There is no right to insurance guaranteed in the constitution.
You will soon [don't pin me down on the date] be required to have a device to record and transmit your vehicle utilization data to the INCO (that's Navy talk) in order to purchase car insurance.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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The penalty for failure to comply will be too onerous.
I have owned 23 motorcycles over the past 40 years and NOT once did a DMV or Insurance official ever do a inspection on em. I just answer em over the phone or in person what I know needs to be said in order comply etc.
Like the system is going to change for a single hand gun in the house.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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INCO First Amendment.
This includes all motor vehicles to be operated by insured, whether on or off road, and without regard to where housed or stored.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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JIM
I just did. Hit a deer and fked up my whole front end.
Since I live out here in Bullpeckersfallsnowhere CA, State Farm simply had the body shop in town that is doing the work do the "inspection" and appraisal then submit the claim to their home office in Phoenix. They sent me the check for the appraisal.
NOT one insurance agent or adjuster ever looked at my truck.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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I got three quads in the garage. Not once has either the DMV nor my Insurance agent ever looked at em to inspect and see if they meet current CA spark and emissions reqs.
The DMV just sends me a bill for registration every two years as does the Insurance once every six months. I pay em and that is it. Get my tags and policy in the mail. Done.
Anyone here really think that all that is going to change for one or two handguns and a totally legal long rifle in the home? Seriously?
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Like shet is going to change.... all for a gun.
Over 300 MILLION of em... legal that is.
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