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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nearly all of the pissing matches involve political threads. Arguing politics is fun. That's why people do it.
A big part of the problem with ST pissing matches is posters only criticize lousy behavior done by the opposition. Trolls get a pass from politically like-minded. Very little is "over the line" if the target is an adversary.
This new policy gives us a chance to act like grownups. If you want OT threads to remain active, then reign in all asshattery.
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Flip Flop
climber
salad bowl, california
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He checked out a long time ago.
I was doing some research which Irishmen might find educational or offensive depending on the sensitivities of said Irishman. According to the racial slur database the PaddyWagon is used to bunch up those troublesome immigrant potato eaters.
Reason & Origins
Baluba Blacks Name belonging to a tribe that killed Irish soldiers in Africa.
Bog-Jumper Irish Many bogs in Ireland
Bog-trotter Irish Abundance of bogs in Ireland
Carrot Top Irish Hair color.
Cat-lick Irish Catholic - Cat-lick.
Chalky Blacks Heard throughout Ireland, extremely derogatory word for blacks, who have an increasing number in the Irish population.
Clover Irish Clovers are prevalent in Irish society.
Clown Irish Not used so much as a racial slur, however, the classic clown is based on a stereotyped image of Irish people: bushy red hair, a large red nose (from excessive drinking), and colorful clothes often with plaids, and often with a great many patches to represent that the Irish were poor and could not buy themselves new clothes. With excessive plaid is a Scottish variation.
Coal-Cracker Irish Many Irish immigrants mined coal.
Donkey Irish It was cheaper to hire an irishman than a donkey in the pennsylvania coal minning days of the 1800's
Drunk Irish Irish are stereotypically drunks.
F.B.I. Irish Foreign Born Irish
Fenian Irish Refers to Irish Roman Catholic immigrants living in such large U.K. cities as Glasgow, Liverpool and Manchester. Also used by Protestants to demean Catholics in Northern Ireland. Irish republicans use it to identify themselves as a member of Sien Fienn, the political party of the IRA. Derived from Gaelic stories of the Fianna, a mythical group of warriors. Not inherently derogatory.
Fire Bush Irish Red hair.
Fire Crotch Irish They have red hair
Frotch Irish See: Fire Crotch
Fumblin' Dublin Irish Known as a slur for drunk, unemployed, Irish men. They are usually found under the influence outside of Dublin's bars.
Green Irish The Irish were once loosely called the green race.
Green Bean Mixed Races Irish/Mexican mix
Green Nigger Irish Mainly in US cities with large Irish populations. Used to denote the Irish, who many hold in the same regard as blacks.
Harp Irish Perhaps derived from the fact that Harp Ale is brewed in Ireland or that the Harp is popular instrument amongst the Irish. The harp is also the symbol of Ireland, a green flag with a harp is displayed by a lot of Irish people.
Hibe Irish Short for Hibernian (of, relating to, or characteristic of Ireland or the Irish).
Hillbilly Scottish Ulster Scots who supported the Protestant King William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne came to be known as "Billy Boys." The combination of "hill" and "billy" first came into use at this time. A large number of Appalachian settlers were Scotch-Irish, and the term arrived with them.
Larrikin Australians Not so much an insult; Comical, roguish individual, prone to rowdy and unruly behaviour, (drunkenness). Coined from an Irish policeman in a Melbourne court, claiming the prisoner was "larkin about". Stereotypical Aussie behaviour.
Leprechaun Irish From the well-known old Irish myth of the chubby green-clad gnome (what happens when you mix Catholicism with Paganism). Popularized in America by Lucky from the Lucky Charms cereal and St. Patrick's Day.
Leprecoon Blacks Combination of Leprechaun and Coon for blacks of Irish descent.
Mackerel Snapper Irish It can be applied to any Catholic, Irish or otherwise. In the past, Catholics were forbidden from eating meat on Fridays. They got around this sort of the same way some vegetarians do, by eating fish (although technically this is not vegetarian, but "pescetarian"). Still observed in heavily-Catholic areas (they even have school/church fish-fry Fridays).
McChigger Mixed Races Irish/Chinese/African American mix
McKraut Mixed Races German/Irish person. Used in the Godfather trilogy.
McNugget Scottish For scottish or irish children - Mc (or Mac) for scottish/irish, nugget to represent that they are children
McSpic Mixed Races Mixed race of Irish and Hispanics
McWop Mixed Races Irish/Italian, Mick and Wop, play on common Irish last names.
Mead Irish The Irish are commonly drunk on mead and mead-derived alcohols
Mick/Mic/Mc Irish Many Irish surnames begin with "Mc" or "Mac." Many Irish are also named after the famed Michael Collins, making Michael (Mick) a very common name. Not as derogatory as Paddy.
Mucker Irish Used in Boston because Irish immigrants could mostly only find employment helping to fill in the Back Bay which was at the time, marsh and water.
Nagur Blacks The Irish-Americans called black people "Nagurs" because they could not pronounce the word "Nigger" with their accent.
Narrow Back Irish The son or daughter of an Irish immigrant.
Nina Irish No Irish Need Apply (from the days of the potato famine and they immigrated to the US and nobody wanted to hire them)
Paddy Irish Used mainly in Britain. Similar negativity connotations as "nigger". Comes from St. Patrick and/or from the common Irish name Padraig. Also spelled Patty.
Paddy Wagon Irish Variation of "paddy." The term Paddy Wagon derives from the idea that the Irish were all criminals, and when the police came to quell a brawl or something of the like, they would just be rounding up a bunch of "paddys."
Plastic Paddy Irish Term used by the Irish describing those who grew up in the a foreign country (specifically the UK) and still identify as being Irish.
Pogue Irish Possibly from Irish Gaelic "pogue mo thoin", meaning "kiss my arse". Could also refer to the Irish folk group "The Pogues" who did popular traditional Irish songs.
Pot-Licker Irish During the potato famine, the would lick their pots clean to get every last morsel of food.
Potato Breath Irish The Irish are notorious for their love of the potato
Potato Head Irish The Irish grow potatoes.
Potato Nigger Irish Because they eat lots of potatoes
Potato-Eater Irish Irish eat potatoes. Used in Gangs of New York.
Proddy Irish Northern Irish Protestants. Shortened, diminutive form of Protestant.
Provo Irish Shortened form of "Provisional Irish Republican Army (I.R.A.)" which is the most noted of the pro Northern Irish independence terrorist groups.
Shamrock Nigger Irish Shamrocks represent Ireland's heritage
Shant Irish Poor Irish People. Derived from the shacks they lived in -- the shanty.
Shillelagh-Hugger Irish A shillelagh is a staff commonly use by the Irish
Sid Irish Small Irish Dick. Irishmen are proud of their manhood
Smoked Irish Blacks Irish, especially during the late 19th early 20th century, were thought of as no better than "niggers," and conversely, blacks were associated with them.
Spud Irish The heavy influence of the potato in Ireland.
Spudnigger Irish Irish/Potato relationship. Also, Spudf*#ker.
Taig Irish Means "hero" in Gaelic. Used today as an insult by the Loyalist community in N Ireland.
Tater Tot Irish Irish Child.
Thick Mick Irish Commonly used in England where Irish immigrants did much of the manual labour. Thick meaning stupid, Mick as an abbreviation of Michael, a common Irish Christian name.
Tory Irish Bandit, from the Irish Tory Island, a noted have for bandits and pirates. Also common slang term for a member of Canada's Conservative party.
Turf-Cutter Irish Turf is peat moss, found in deep layers in Ireland. It was originally cut by most Irish farmers and used as fuel (an early form of coal). More modernly, it could apply to any drunk Irishmen working as greenkeepers, such as on golf courses.
White Nigger Irish Blacks called Irish Americans this during the 1800's in retaliation to being called "Nagurs"
Wic Whites 'White Irish Catholic'
The Racial Slur Database, since 1999. Not copyrighted in any way, shape or form.
This database was created entirely from data gleaned off the 'net and via submissions from people like you and your parents. It's supposed to be funny and/or informational. Calm down.
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Flip Flop
climber
salad bowl, california
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Scrubbles you're not a funny guy.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Stay classy, Scrubbles
Edit: And make yourself useful...
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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He didn't ask anyone's opinion, Ron. He laid down the law. Don't like it, check the f*#k out.
Dictatorship rules? Many on this thread like that fine, but some have tried a different tack, with suggestions or hopes to make things less bad. Still from the silence it looks like Dingus is right.
Chris hands down his decision, now it's up to each poster to make his or her own.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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All right, all right - obviously I overreacted. I am sorry if I offended anyone's sensibilities, and I apologize to Chris Mac if he took any offense to my post.
In this post:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2545338&tn=0&mr=0
Chris asked a question: "When does OT become so far off that it doesn't belong?"
He received all sorts of input and suggestions - almost 500 - but what angers me is that Chris Mac- you didn't even bother to respond! It's almost like you are trolling, asking a question to provoke a lot of thought, and then not doing a damn thing, not even bothering to answer or comment?
I agree with someone up post who pointed out that Chris didn't ask a question here, merely made a pronouncement. So maybe he doesn't have to answer after all?
I would sure like to read an answer from Chris to the post linked above, however. I am still pissed that the forum is not divided into climbing stuff and non climbing stuff, which I believe would make a huge improvement to the place.
And I strongly approve of banning people who are intentionally disruptive. And if they return with a new avatar, ban them again.
Fake avatars, or anonymous avatars, are lame beyond all words. These people will never come up to me in Yosemite and say hi.
Anita: Please add shrubbery to my white man's problem. My gosh, what a waste of time and brain power... I feel as though I have been trolled by the owner of the forum.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Chris I don't know if you'll read this but I also think this isn't the way to solve the problem.
I can only guess that the problem is certain people are complaining to you so you feel the need as the forum owners to do something about it. Rather than put the power to control topics in the hands of the people who can now lock a thread by using personal attacks and/or complaining and then you have to intervene and lock a thread that may otherwise have some good conversation going. I again suggest an "Ignore Member" button on everyone's profile page. People can then choose to ignore someone who attacks them or someone who doesn't want to hear attacks can ignore the members who engage in it. Or perhaps also an "Ignore Topic" button of the topic listing page (another column would be needed) to ignore OT threads if someone wants.
Make the forum work for people how they want it to. Don't use a process that requires a moderator's time to implement. Don't lock or delete topics that may have some good content in them because some people don't behave the way others want them to. Keep the forum free and unstructured which has made it different and successful compared to so many other forums that use the same open source code.
As a bonus you won't have to ban anyone. Let people who don't like a certain poster ban them themselves. Only two of the people banned from supertopo over the years I'm glad are gone. Not so much because of the tone of their content but because of the tone, quality and quantity of it. There is another user I'd like to ignore for the same reason. But I'm not going to complain about it, I just skip over their posts, but it would be easier if I could just click "Ignore Member" button once instead of keeping an eye out and constantly scrolling past their posts.
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Fish Finder
climber
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Nice Pete
WAY to MAN up
much better approach
what goes on behind the curtaint of Oz we will never know
Cmac is an off hands touch and go guy with trying to manage the Monkeys
it obviously works for him and its his place . It must be a pain in the ass though dealing with it
The big picture is everyone has these great ideas of what they "think" will change the forum for the better
Dont you think they long ago have pondered splitting up the forum
They dont want to.period
so if your legs get tired on that soap box, just step down
you cant control whats not yours
I do agree with you that Anita should post more BUSH
but not such full ones
Anita do you have a trimmed BUSH?
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Fish Finder
climber
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yes Locker
the Squeaky Wheel does not always get Greased
it gets replaced
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Flip Flop
climber
salad bowl, california
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Ignore Member
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Fish Finder
climber
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ignore member.................that is a funny pun!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Internet forums offer further evidence that the human race will never be free of war
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Psilocyborg
climber
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He received all sorts of input and suggestions - almost 500 - but what angers me is that Chris Mac- you didn't even bother to respond! It's almost like you are trolling, asking a question to provoke a lot of thought, and then not doing a damn thing, not even bothering to answer or comment?
To me that is a good thing. He probably got better things to do.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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I do agree with you that Anita should post more BUSH
but not such full ones
Anita do you have a trimmed BUSH?
I sure do!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Delete the whole forum and start over. Who really cares about this crap. About 50 people
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Fish Finder
climber
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that is great! hahahahaha
its amazing what people can do with clippers.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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^^ Have I ever mentioned how much I *love* that SASSY girl? ^^
That's, um, quite the bush there, Anita....
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Flip Flop
climber
salad bowl, california
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Right?! Bullying is underrated. Particularly group bullying. Hear me out. It goes like this. Some jackass is being offensive at the campfire. The group is obliged to shout him down before some nice guy is forced to sit him down.
The platoon will scrub toilets until the private cleans his windows, if you feel me. And the beatings will continue until morale improves.
The communists got it right during the cultural revolution. As in, "We don't care how special you think that you are, you get cabbage and coal like the rest of us."
And I love the Mujahadin. Regardless of their lunatic religion. And I mean coockoo kill me Mohamed. Because I love some Hay-Rabs and I because I've love those badass helicopter blasting towel-heads since I was a boy. To hell with empire.
The Evolution will not be televised.
Hey Ed, f*#k these cubicle pukes, let's hook up with some babes and watch their hair grow.
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