An honest question.....How long do you guys give Hondo?

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Norwegian

Trad climber

dancin on the tip of god's middle finger

Mar 22, 2015 - 01:04pm PT

The biggest problem I find with his activities is the impression it leaves on non-climbers and beginners.
I have spoken to people that have seen the video of his exploits (which are spectacular) and believe that it is the norm.

poloman,
an education beyond youtube
is requisite for those
aspiring youths
whom entertain
alex's notions.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Mar 22, 2015 - 02:25pm PT

5.11d, I think? Seems that's what I read.

Oops, I just read on MP, 15 pitches sustained quality 5.12d.

Poloman

Trad climber

Anna, Il

Mar 22, 2015 - 05:24pm PT

Norwegian
Many think that free soloing is how rock climbing is usually done.
Pursuing that is a dangerous formula.
People killing themselves is very bad for the sport.

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber

joshua tree

Mar 22, 2015 - 08:32pm PT

You know you're about as funny as a sh#t casserole.

DMT ur jus to tasty! i'm realizing my written words are pretty queer too, to you

from WiKi;

In the English dialect of the southern United States, the two senses of the adjective queer (homosexual and weird, odd, different, or unwell) are sometimes distinguished by pronunciation. Queer (homosexual) is pronounced (kwîr), queer

(weird, odd, different, or unwell)

is pronounced (kwär). This is generally considered old-fashioned and is only used when the word is emphasized, as in the phrase "that's awful queer" (pronounced THăts ôr'fəl kwär). The distinction is dying out as that latter sense of the word dies out.

i don't know what southern States has to do with it, cause i'm from Sacramento. But
i've held tight to my old skcool definition of the word queer

(weird, odd, different, or unwell)

, and i've never said "queer" in a derogatory manner towards a Homosexual! i kinda think the word "queer" was raped by the male homosexuals, like the lesbians are now trying to steal the word "rainbow". It hurts us when we try to give two meanings to one word, as an environment/socieity.. every meaning deserves a word.

Re:

Nuth'in mor queer than solo'in gett'in all this publicity>

guess i jus should'a said that i think it's really weird to talk so much about such a personal experience such as free-soloing rocks?

MisterE

Gym climber

Bishop, CA

Mar 22, 2015 - 08:48pm PT

As long as it takes for him to fulfill his place in the world, then move on.

Just like all of us.

drljefe

climber

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson

Mar 22, 2015 - 08:53pm PT

Sendero is 12d.

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber

joshua tree

Mar 22, 2015 - 08:57pm PT

^^^Nope. Bout the same as gett'in hit by a train

brotherbbock

Trad climber

Alta Loma, CA

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2015 - 09:16pm PT

A train traveling at 9.8 m/s sq.

jonnyrig

climber

Mar 24, 2015 - 08:49am PT

Nothing to do particularly with Honnold, but if you die solo, your life insurance might not pay. That is, if you have any. In applying, it was interesting to note that solo climbing activities are a disqualifying factor. Google up some avocation forms for climbing/mountaineering. At least one insurer published their risk factors and rate increases. Something to consider if you have a family and insist on risky behavior.

brotherbbock

Trad climber

Alta Loma, CA

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2015 - 09:39pm PT

I don't think even roped rock climbing is covered for most.

John Burns

climber

Pothole, Utah

Mar 25, 2015 - 09:08pm PT

Bullshit aside, soloing is what people who like to solo, do

so how'd they get there? was marijuana the gateway?

EDIT: Dingus - that funnier'n a sh#t-sammy deal was pretty decent. Ah, to poss-ass stoicism.

John Burns

climber

Pothole, Utah

Mar 25, 2015 - 09:28pm PT

^is not solo-ing a learned, acquired behavior for most rational humans?

John Burns

climber

Pothole, Utah

Mar 25, 2015 - 09:41pm PT

now I never liked tomatoes as a kid. and yet, I ate enough of 'em, and I kinda love 'em now. took some self-teaching, for me.

and yes, your question Cpt. Brennan, is worthwhile. Why talk about what is essentially masturbation?

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Mar 25, 2015 - 09:49pm PT

Climbing is not a team sport and most climbers eschewed team sports. Climbing is intensley personal and personal expression is manifest in many ways. I agree with Jim, censure begins with the inability to understand.
As Wittgenstein said...."of that of which we cannot speak, we must pass over in silence."

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

extraordinaire

Mar 25, 2015 - 10:06pm PT

My son and I were jumping rocks on a talus the other day, and he says something to the effect that if we don't quit messing around, we are gonna fall/ get hurt pretty soon (statistical probabilities).
He's 9 years old.

clinker

Trad climber

Santa Cruz, California

Mar 25, 2015 - 10:06pm PT

Climbing is not a team sport

Soloing is not a team sport. Climbing certainly can be.

covelocos

Trad climber

Mar 25, 2015 - 10:39pm PT

Is group soloing a team sport? sometimes seems like it!

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Mar 26, 2015 - 12:14am PT

My father started flying in Stearman N2S biplanes and retired a 747 captain. While he never said that much about it, on rare occasions he'd talk about the difference between 'natural' pilots and 'book' pilots and how he always kept an eye on book pilots whenever they had the yoke. He felt they were "ok", so long as nothing went wrong, but generally had no real 'feel' for flying. Said their weakness was they operated strictly according to company flight rules - i.e. 'flew-by-the-book' - even in emergencies, rather than thinking for themselves and responding to the situation at hand.

While I heard all that from him, not being on the pilot-track like my brothers due to vision issues I really didn't get it. But after a few years of climbing I did and then saw no shortage of parallels in our world. And I'd even take it a step further to the distinction between folks who think it's fun or like to climb and those who have to climb. You can spot it in children sometimes and even adults whether they've ever climbed or not. Every now and then I'm compelled to ask someone if they're a climber or ever climbed as I can just see it in the way they hold themselves and move.

As for soloing, I've done enough of it to taste and be captivated by that groove; certainly don't have a question whether Alex needs to climb or not; and basically think he's safer without a rope than 85% of today's climbing demographic with one (and probably far safer).

Bottom line is: if you don't get it, you probably never will.