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couchmaster
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Last time I was in Paris I was struck by the fact that thousands of Muslims could pop out into the streets after prayers (can't remember if it was the 18th arrondissement - the neighborhood of La Goutte d’Or or the Grand Mosque in the Paris 5th arrondissement, you need to get off the beaten track for this and you won't see it in the news) and PEACEFULLY mix with hundreds of Jews. How to tell them apart? Muslims had prayer rugs tucked under their arms and Jews were wearing Yamakas. No fights. No verbal BS. I'm talking thousands of Muslims rubbing against Jews (did that come out right? LOL), streets packed. I was pretty damned nervous the first time I witnessed this happening around me, but it's a daily occurrence and the normal thing that occurs. When the non-normal occurs, you get headlines. Geo. Bush said we'd be at war with these douchbags for a long time, and Obama has agreed: picking up that torch and running with it. The next President will as well.
In no way does that excuse this BS caused by extremists. I just want to say that the stuff you let the news cram down your throat is rarely a full reality. In fact, often, the reverse.
Cue Werner Re: the newz
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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12 people die in one day and .. lets spend 100's of billions on defense...and war!
21000 people die of cancer EVERY day..lets cut funding for research and educating researchers and for healthcare.
yeah..
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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12 people die in one day and .. lets spend 100's of billions on defense...and war!
Yup that's what we all said, verbatim.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nah.. But that's what our government does.
While we get distracted by relatively miniscule problems.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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So, I hate to digress, but I will. From my limited exposure it seems that
Charlie Hebdo has been picking the low-hanging fruit, almost exclusively,
for a long time. They hardly seem like a paragon of cutting edge journalism.
Their cartoons don't even seem up to Mad Magazine quality yet the editor has
wrapped himself in a Turin Shroud of free speech righteousness. Beating a
dead horse is meaningful journalism? And continuing to plow that furrow
knowing you might well make your children fatherless seems like me trying
to follow Alex Honnold around on a Valley solo tour.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Quite a difference between exercising the fundamental right of mankind to freedom of speech and a climbers right to climb without a rope.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Crank, parlez vous francais?
Do you know the "Marseillaise"?
It is a catchy tune...
"Allons enfants de le banlieue,
le jour de sang est arrivé!"
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crankster
Trad climber
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Reilly, Automatic weapons instead of cutting of throats. The modern era.
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crankster
Trad climber
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One New Years resolution I had was to not waste time with airheads. And Cheef/Ron, you are the consummate airhead. So post up your stupid hater photos, picking the low hanging fruit at every opportunity...air in, air out.
Wow, Cheef/Ron figured out terrorist are bad! Amazing!! We didn't know that!
Muslims are head choppers, black people loot stores!! Air. Head.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Some groups of Muslims in France are assimilating well. A large percentage are not. Unemployment is extreme in this group. Unfortunately, this environment is fertile grounds for jihadist recruiters.
And, to pretty much no one's surprise, they were from a family of Algerians. Poor Europe in that regard, harvesting the benefits of colonization for hundreds of years only to now find themselves subject to reverse-colonization. Very much a reap what you sow deal compounded in age where economies are driven by oil.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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With those guys in particular? The dialogue begins with good intelligence and cruise missiles - and I'm way down for peace through negotiation and mutual interests.
And given this is very much part of a larger, 'calaphatic' civil war, sooner or later the principals need to weigh in instead of their western proxies.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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There's a one note song playing loudly on a straw guitar in the back ground here.
Just like any thread with the word Muslim in it.
Ah well, world's fastest growing religion - 2 billion and counting.
When hating a group - and it's always somebody - the repetitive ignorant tend to go big.
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pinckbrown
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
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This is a long read and it circulated around the web months ago. Sorry for the yellow
notepad style. I thought it was pertinent to this thread.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Now over 200 posts, with the original putz not making any statement against the violence.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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It's so easy to make associations.
We KNOW that US servicemen participated in atrocities. Therefore all US servicemen should be considered war criminals who want to do nothing but eat infants?
Is that reasonable?
I think it is not.
But we did this after Viet Nam. Do the militants among us hold that out as a good strategy? Should we consider all US military in that light? Or is that wrong?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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pinckbrown, guys like you are who Karl Rove and company were banking on in the 20-30 year process of exterminating moderate republicans, taking over statehouses, and gerrymandering congressional districts. Unfortunately they overshot the mark hard which resulted in an unintended over-radicalization of the right.
Bottom line is you pretty much have to expect a certain percentage of posts in threads like this are going to be a lot like yours are are nothing unexpected per se, just banal.
P.S. Have you even been to Indonesia or the Philippines?
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pinckbrown
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
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healyje
"guys like me"
You don't know me
This is just something that I posted
I did not compose it
But if you feel the need to stereotype me
Go ahead
I made it clear that it was circulating around the World Wide Web
don't take it so personal
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Ward's actually smart, original, and funny. He's got a discernable point of view snd can debate solutions and policies in detail. A bon vivant, really. Different universe. The Chief is a type. Every site's got a junk yard dog it seems.
All based on web personas, of course.
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Bargainhunter
climber
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The criminals are holed up in Dammartin-en-Goële. Hope they get what's coming to them! An acceptable outcome would be them laying on the ground with their hands up, begging for their lives, as someone shows them the widely circulating video of them executing the cop on the sidewalk. A few smiles are exchanged between the cops, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, and they are executed.
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