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MH2
climber
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Nov 13, 2014 - 09:49pm PT
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For some, Spock or Kirk seem to be the only choices. That would be a narrow view.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 13, 2014 - 10:50pm PT
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DMT:
Expound.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 13, 2014 - 10:51pm PT
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MH2:
Exactly. They all are. Every single one of them--by definition.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Nov 14, 2014 - 05:42am PT
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Would you believe a watermelon before smashing it?
WOULD YOU?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Nov 14, 2014 - 06:24am PT
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"Science has never distanced me from my children. I've never seen a scientific suggestion that such should be the case. Ever. Even though, horror of horrors, science seeks to understand the physical mechanisms of life, and one of these mechanisms is love. What does the Ode tell us about the love of a scientific discovery? Are scientists and techies allowed to have feelings too? Science has a lot to say about the rhythms of nature, especially those only visible to the eye of analysis. Science has revealed what human senses cannot discern, does that really diminish your pleasure with sonnets?
You talk of narrow views and use strawmen to illustrate them."
Perfect. :)
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 14, 2014 - 07:22am PT
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'The Cunundrum Equation'
Metaphysical analysis of Science = Scientific analysis of Meraphysics =
Grey Area x Emotion ÷ Logic = Grey Area
Source:
(Brain + Education x Experience = Opinion)
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 14, 2014 - 07:37am PT
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The gross materialists can only barely quantify the inferior gross material energies and what to speak of even coming close to the superior energies.
The gross material scientists can not understand the superior energies with their gross material senses
and what to speak their inferior limited instruments created by manipulating the gross physical elements.
The puffed up material atheistic lab coats are always in poor fund of knowledge of the Superior energies which they know exist but are always out of their reach .......
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MH2
climber
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Nov 14, 2014 - 08:56am PT
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Superior energies which they know exist but are always out of their reach .......
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crankster
Trad climber
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Nov 14, 2014 - 09:58am PT
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The gross materialists can only barely quantify the inferior gross material energies and what to speak of even coming close to the superior energies. ??????????
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Nov 14, 2014 - 10:40am PT
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Cute dog ! it is thinking "I fu##ing love science!
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Nov 14, 2014 - 01:47pm PT
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Heaven is a finding a Norwegian hutte in a driving blizzard.
That's not a concept a Georgia preacher is going to be able to easily wrap his mind around.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Nov 14, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
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WBraun
climber
Nov 14, 2014 - 07:37am PT
The gross materialists can only barely quantify the inferior gross material energies and what to speak of even coming close to the superior energies.
The gross material scientists can not understand the superior energies with their gross material senses
and what to speak their inferior limited instruments created by manipulating the gross physical elements.
The puffed up material atheistic lab coats are always in poor fund of knowledge of the Superior energies which they know exist but are always out of their reach .......
 Gross Count - 5.
Conclusions Draw - Unremarkable drivel
crankster
Trad climber
Nov 14, 2014 - 09:58am PT
The gross materialists can only barely quantify the inferior gross material energies and what to speak of even coming close to the superior energies.
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Translation from Weiner to English needed.
Translation from Weiner to English needed.
Credit: crankster
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Classic!!! Clever, cunning Crankster LMAO
So... With humans landing instrumentation on a comet... How long before we humans get the information we so desperately seek...
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta/Rosetta_media_briefing_replay
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Hang on to your hats... your worlds are about to change.
Good luck bending yourselves into pretzels to get out of answering this one...
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Nov 15, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
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You can't quantify the awe, pity or fear that great literature exacts in a human being (sullly)
Well, you probably could, but I'd rather not.
Marlow: When I was attending a math conference at Trondheim in the summer of 1997 we were taken into the countryside to a small church where the pastor awaited our arrival. He walked to the wall behind the pulpit and pulled aside a tapestry to reveal a large drawing done hundreds of years ago depicting the devil cavorting about with a huge erection.
It put all those Southern Baptist services I attended in my youth in perspective.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Nov 15, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
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to reveal a large drawing done hundreds of years ago depicting the devil cavorting about with a huge erection.
LMAO!
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 15, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
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DMT:
I must be a terrible writer. My apologies.
The point is not whether science can come up with an explanation (a theory) of any of the things I made reference to. The point is that you KNOW them through structures of awareness that are not mental-rational (science). They just don’t need any explanation; they stand on their own experientially.
Of course science can say many things, but you can be aware in almost innumerable ways without it.
The things in life I pointed to are not strawmen, by the way. They constitute the core of day-to-day living. I mean your life isn’t really all quarks and intergalactic forces to you, is it? If it isn’t—but it’s the base of your argument—then you’re really just pulling my leg, aren’t you?
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Nov 15, 2014 - 11:56pm PT
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Nov 16, 2014 - 03:43am PT
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That was a fun video Marlowe, a great cross cultural exchange. I was surprised that the fundamentalist minister from Georgia handled the whole situation so well, a tribute to his humanity if not his theology.
The even more interesting program I watched which popped up on the screen afterward was a BBC debate titled, "Is it time for religions to accept evolution?" There were a couple of Christian fundamentalists there but British style, which was interesting, and a number of scientists who were atheists but giving the religious people ways to believe in both evolution and God, though they themselves did not (Dawkins was criticized by the scientists for his unhelpful attitude).
For me though, the most fascinating debate was between the Muslim scholars, some of whom believed in evolution and others who did not and all of them quoting the Koran. It's a real tribute to the British that they would put Muslims and Christians on an equal footing on a program like that, and even more interesting that the scientists agreed that the Muslim religious position on the issue made more sense than the fundamentalist Christians (there were liberal, evolution believing Christians represented as well).
Above all, the high level of education and discourse on display compared to most of their American counterparts, was impressive. PBS on steroids. Well worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOPJXCDsMLI
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Nov 16, 2014 - 04:46am PT
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“In the history of human thought science has often come out of superstition.
Astronomy came out of astrology.
Chemistry came out of alchemy.
What will come out of economics?”
Bernard Lewis
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