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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 12:18am PT
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Tell me more, oh white-man-who-knows-what-is-hidden-to-all-mortals-because-of-magical-book. (Who was absolutely not indoctrinated as a child). You won't flip (or learn anything new) because religious types live in a fantasy of their own creation that doesn't permit facts, reason or evidence.
Getting popcorn.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 26, 2014 - 08:59am PT
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religious types live in a fantasy of their own creation that doesn't permit facts, reason or evidence.
 For evidence of this fact being a fact, I point to the last post by the defendant aimed at Jingy....
Try and guess the connection between what is written and anything I have written in any previous posts.
Dude just went off on some personal rant about a personally held belief...
Starting with the fantacy world created with this sentence:
So Jingy, what do you find great about christianity? ...
Have I ever said what you claim I have here?
... and ends with this bit of personally held belief/fiction:
Thus The Whole Truth is in The Bible.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
If you say it then is so...
There is no god
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:42am PT
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Have I ever said what you claim I have here?
You hadn't much. But it sounded like you were agreeing with what ur "allies' had said?
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 26, 2014 - 10:19am PT
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BB - Proving my point... and highlighting what is wrong with the first part of my quoted post...
it's the people who proliferate it, evangelize it, bastardize it, kill in the name of it, and otherwise ram it down the throats of everyone around them that irritates the sh*t outta me.
You bastardized what I wrote for your purposes.... the cause of all distrust of you and your kind that I hold.
Believe it or not, you are not speaking to anyone real when you write to this avatar/title...
Eventually, you will have to go on faith that you even had these great conversations online...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:09pm PT
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i feel like the only thing being rammed down throats everywhere is science. . . . It's understandable for the science types to conflate Islam to Isis. Being under the law of cause-effect, when a recipe is written, what it produces is proof-truth. What Isol is doing today could be saved as a truth prescribed by the Koran. But where science is naive is in conflating the old testament to the new testament. (BB)
Wow . . . I'm speechless.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
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Well John, you can't cure stupid, but you can sedate it.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 27, 2014 - 06:45am PT
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Science isn't conflating it but some science types are. Of course many Christians do the same thing. They declare that the New Testament replaced the Old, until it comes to gays for instance, and there they are back in the Old Testament quoting the abominations. Pot calling the kettle black it seems.
There is an interesting group called the red line Christians who only go by the actual words of Jesus which are printed red in many Bibles. They have a pamphlet called "What Jesus taught about Gays" and when you open it up, it's absolutely blank. Those are people actually practicing what they preach it seems to me.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 27, 2014 - 06:51am PT
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There's been a whole lot more evangelizing scientism around here than religousism.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 27, 2014 - 09:55am PT
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See ... Jingy has no brain and only Youtube brainwashing copy, paste and linking.
Those steeped in academics can never understand how the true arrow of science and religion both point to the same target .....
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 27, 2014 - 09:56am PT
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Jingy has no brain
F*#k off chimp
There proof positive...
Which only raises the question...
Why would the brain of Braun be interested in squashing any thoughts of those without brains...?
Feeling bad about yourself this morning Braun?
Or was mine just the first of the day of finding piles of sh#t to flare up about how stupid they are?
You should know Braun... I have no sway in this world... You are making me out to be something... when actually... I am nothing... same as you.
Hopefully, there will be less judgement thrown around...
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 27, 2014 - 10:07am PT
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See .... you have no brain.
I didn't squash anything.
I just said you have no brain .....
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 27, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
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There's been a whole lot more evangelizing scientism around here than religousism
Ya gotta love the internet!
;>)
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 27, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
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Given that we're all posting on the internet, we're all 'science types', by definition.
In a very real (and historically verifiable way), science is at odds with religion.
The Dark Ages provides a data point. For 1000 years, when religion held sway as the dominant way of thinking, quashing nearly all scientific and technological development, there was almost no scientific or technological progress in Europe.
Enter the Renaissance, Age of Enlightenment, and Modern Age, when religion lost its coercive monopoly on thought and action in Europe and science began to take the reigns. In a mere 400 years, we've gone from superstitious villages in stasis to this.
We've tried both science and religion. Science enables us to understand, innovate, and invent. Religion hampers or prevents those processes.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 27, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
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BTW, it should be noted that there are no "words of Jesus", given that there is no historical evidence that he ever existed at all. Any book that claims to provide them is anonymously authored hooey conjured long after his supposed death.
An acceptance of homosexuality as normal hails directly from science (given that it is clearly a natural phenomenon that has been observed in over 1500 species so far), as well as the humanist principles with historical origins that pre-date Christianity (as far back as we can verify, anyway). It's not hard to imagine that homosexuality was accepted through most of prehistory among small bands who needed each and every member to improve chances of survival.
Choosing one's morals with regards to homosexuality today based on a 2000 year old fiction is a dodge. Every one of us chooses our own morals. Those who are comfortable discriminating against homosexuals today find a way to justify that - through religion or other sources. Many of the religious are uncomfortable with such bigotry, but choose to trade the promise of eternal life for its acceptance anyway.
Those of us who are not comfortable with such bigotry reject those doctrines that purvey it as morally wrong on their face.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Why would a dumbshit Braun insult those with brains?
Answer:
To bolster his low self-esteem.
except that he would have us believe he is above ego... he is, after all, above and far beyond it all.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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I'm just honored to be talking smack with all y'all and especially the jokers that get my goat like Werner, JGill, Largo even Locker. Honored dammit, downright honored.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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without an opinion..?
honorable...
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