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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
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check out the first episode locker it's rad!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:03pm PT
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Did you read this part, blue?:
"Use my tax dollars to provide us with real universal health care instead of pissing it all away on lawmakers salerys and bennifits as well as invasions, meddeling and nation building"
You must have cherry-picked that post for the stuff that supports your paranoid Communist-invasion-view of the world, and skipped right past this statement...
Whatcha drinkin' tonight?
I've started out with a Fat Tire- not my favorite, but a friend left a few in my fridge. Gonna bump my way up to a Wassail later, and maybe a nice scotch for dessert.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
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donini you had better get the drum circle stated
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eyes of a mamba
Trad climber
seaside
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
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National news (CBS or whoever ) a voter living in Virginia who along with her husband received their healthcare through Medicare voted for the republican candidate for governor to save her grandchildren from the affordable care act. She did not seem to realize she was voting to cut her grandchildren off from a similar structure that she was benefiting from. To much partition-ship, politicians and their constituents seemed more devoted to their dogma then finding a workable solution. the american version of the Taliban.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
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apogee, I'm drinking Maker's Mark tonight. And we're prolly not too far off on our solutions. Just don't bring up the 'single payer' bullshit!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Students at Bowie find out the student health insurance plan has been canceled.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
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Welcome to Communism. Destroy the middle class and steal the welath of the 'rich' in the guise of 'helping the poor'.
The moment you conflate socialized healthcare with communism, you have completely lost the argument.
Curt
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
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Yes....that would imply that every first world industrialized country was communist.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 16, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
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Bluering....Communism is dead now that Mickey Dee's has opened a franchise in Red Square...Free happy meals for the middle class...!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 16, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
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It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that providers are simply not going to take these plans thank's sullyman
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Nov 16, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
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we pay a ton of taxes. What on earth is so terrible about takeing our taxes and putting it twords our health care instaed of pissing it away on bombs.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 16, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
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Read tradman's comments closely, blue & the rest of you Repugs...
He may be agreeing with you that the ACA is a disaster, but he's not keen on seeing tax dollar$ going towards the dumbass shite you guys support, either.
Confusing, ain't it?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Nov 17, 2013 - 08:18am PT
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rsin.. you can't buy alcohol with food stamps FYI.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Nov 17, 2013 - 08:56am PT
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^^^Guns loaded with all the excess bullets that have been made... since you can't buy alcohol with food stamps? Good point...Got it! ;)
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 17, 2013 - 09:55am PT
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Europe is even waking up to this, they are becoming more nationalistic and fiscally prudent as we speak.
How's that working for Britain?
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 17, 2013 - 09:57am PT
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J. Shiloh wrote:
It might be interesting to hear from people who do NOT feel that basic health care is a fundamental right within a civilized society. If you are one such person who does not feel that everyone is so entitled, can you tell us why? Do you feel education is a basic right? What about police protection? What about public roads? Also in your argument do not use extremes like a full set of dental implants for the patient who has "meth mouth" (abused methamphetamine and rotted out his teeth). We are talking about treating that patient's dental pain with antibiotics and analgesics along with someplace where he can go to extract the rotten teeth still in his jaw.
If you do not feel it is a basic right in a civilized society, please tell us why?
Hi Lois.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 17, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
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I am saddened when idiots try to tell me communism is dead, or that socialism is actually really awesome.
Some cite the death of communism as Russia's re-emergance, but they forget North Korea and Venezuela.
Which brings me to my point. That is, communism is never instituted, it creeps in. This is what is happening in Venezuela.
Largo? Got comments on this?
We are creeping into socialism in this country. We'll see what happens.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 17, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
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Large hippie drum circle just drank kool aid
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 17, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
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hurry get over here quick rsin is going into Kool-Aid pasta shock
drum circle was too much for it
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