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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
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ecflau, Tuolumne City is about 3 miles(direct line) away from 108. Tuolumne Rd is the major road to Tuolumne City from 108 that has restrictions.
There is fire about 3 miles SSE from Tuolomne City.
Still, if there is another big advance overnight, 108 could have restrictions as well.
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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Aug 23, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
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Great posts. Thanks for all the info.
murcy, that map you posted... that is just the watershed for Hetch Hetchy, right?
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Aug 23, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
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ecflau: Monolith has it right - only Tuolumne City has restrictions for now and 108 is open.
But this thing seems to be racing toward that town! I've never heard of such a restriction there, even during another fire some years ago in which we could see flames from parts of town.
Still, it appears that they are making huge efforts now that will allow them to stop the fire in the North Fork Tuolumne River canyon. They'll let it burn up into that canyon and then stomp it in the canyon below town (at least that looks like the plan).
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
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Joe, your map postings are fantastic!
Can you post anything current from the northwest side of the fire (a little self-interest there)?
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
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ecflau, here's the latest about our roads:
"Tuolumne County, CA -- Unless you're a resident or members of the Rim Fire emergency response team you won't get into Tuolumne City. The advisory evacuations have expanded from the area known as Sherwood Forest to the east entrance of Twain Harte down Highway 108 to Willow Springs and Soulsbyville. Highway 108 is open to traffic.
That is not the case in Tuolumne City, Spokesperson Scott Johnson says, "The California Highway Patrol is manning road closures at all entrances into Tuolumne City unless you are a resident and can prove you are a resident."
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
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hey there say, khanom, strider, nita, and all...
matt called our dad this morning and he is safe with horse, in groveland now... not sure what is next, but this is good for now...
:)
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Strider
Trad climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
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I am in SF right now and just finished setting up an ad-hoc network for the Evergreen server and computer equipment. Word came to us around 1pm that the Evergreen and Camp Mather are safe at this time with no loss is structures. The fire fighters were able to bump the fire around us. We are not completely out of the woods yet but this is the first official good news we have had so far. Camp Tawonga also escaped damage.
The bad news was the mandatory evacuation of Sunset Inn and Hardin Flat around 2 pm. They are now trying to focus efforts in the Tuolumne City direction as well as toward PML.
-n
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ecflau
Gym climber
CA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
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Thanks, all.
Best wishes to you guys that call that area home...
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
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Here is the current west side.
The Tuolumne is Tuolumne City.
If you have google earth, go to:
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/googleearth.php
Click Fire Detections(MODIS): Current
Then specify your Google Earth app when prompted. The map will update every 15 minutes.
Each time it updates it will zoom out, so place a marker to zoom back to.
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chappy
Social climber
ventura
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Aug 23, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
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Got an email this afternoon from Bill and Lauren that they would be evacuating Sunset Inn. My brother Matt and his horse Sharky made it out yesterday after two nights with Bill and Lauren. They were all allowed out west on 120 to Big Oak Flat. It looks like Sawmill Mnt got burnt and that the fire reached Matt's place on Sawmill Mnt Area Rd. Haven't heard of any structures lost there. Hopefully his place is OK.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
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Alpenglow Sports posted this....
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
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update 2 hours ago
The Southeast Blue Team assumed command of the Rim Fire on August 23 at 6:00 A.M. and will remain in unified command with CalFire. Approximately 4,500 structures are threatened. Fire continues to spread eastward. That's 2000 more homes at risk than this morning. I assume that reflects the new danger to the area south of 108
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:50pm PT
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Everyone with an eye for potential fire disasters has wondered
how those little villages along the Sonora Pass road could have
survived? The forest is thick, trees overhang most every building,
thick pine needle carpets on roofs. Defensible space is an alien concept.
Has their luck finally run out?
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wstmrnclmr
Trad climber
Bolinas, CA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:06pm PT
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Ron....Mother Nature seems to be taking care of it.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
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I've just spent 6 months managing a major wild land fuel clearance project. The goals are to slow the spread of fire, but more importantly to provide a fuel break that makes a safe space for the firefighters to work from. Incidentally it can also improve habitat diversity (which was one of our lesser goals)
We had three main approaches:
1) remove all brush at least 25 feet either side of the road.
2) Trim all tree branches as high as a power pole saw could reach: about 10 feet. Also from 25 to 50 feet either side
3) Remove all conifers (except redwoods) up to 8" diameter
4) Remove selected species of hardwoods up to 8", saving some. In my project we specifically saved about 1/2 the madrones, all the buckeye and about 1/2 of the "true oaks"
5) reduce or eliminate branches or trees that arch over the road. You can take away all the ladder fuel and still have a crown fire.
but you've got to maintain it. Another section we finished clearing nearly a year ago is now re-grown brush up to 3' high!
So now we're working on getting another grant for maintenance. We figure we'll have to re-work every bit of it every three years, 1/3 each year.
It's a huge and expensive effort. Even for my 2 miles.
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tom Carter
Social climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
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Any updates on Bill and Lauren/Sunset Inn?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:25pm PT
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That MAFFSs video is really something!
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
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I shouldn't joke but the people at Pinecrest Lake probably
don't even know there's forest fire coming because their air quality
always sucks like one is near by.
air quality rating: Hazardous PM2.5 >100.4 ?
http://www.deq.state.or.us/aqi/includes/aqi_FFscale.html
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