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John M
climber
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Feb 23, 2015 - 10:22pm PT
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I've never hid that I haven't climbed in more then 10 years and never was much of a climber. Health problems took me out of action. I love the outdoors and try to support those who also love it. I lived in Yosemite for the past 24 years and had many friends who were climbers. I also skied, surfed, backpacked and played as much as I could in the outdoors. i can't anymore and it bugs me a lot. I came to supertopo on the recommendation of a friend because my health really went south and I was struggling and needed to find people who had some stoke.
So whats your point Pyro? You gonna tattle tail on me now.
and my name is John.. not Jon
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 23, 2015 - 10:38pm PT
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I know this will come as a shock wave from my mouth but the US insurance
companies should be nationalized. You can call me Adam Peron Smith now.
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John M
climber
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Feb 23, 2015 - 10:42pm PT
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It doesn't surprise me. You have a brain.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Feb 24, 2015 - 04:23am PT
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The top ten reasons you'll know you are now taken care of by Obama's brilliant "affordable" system...
(10) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(9) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(8) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(7) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(6) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(5) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(4) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(3) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
(2) I am no longer denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions
and the best reason overall
(1) I can actually get health insurance now
I am no longer one major accident or one major illness away from bankruptcy!
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 24, 2015 - 04:43am PT
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You seem to be confused about who your gripe is with. Before ACA, if you paid for your own insurance you were dealing with a private company. You still are. Now the contract you have with the private company must follow more regulations - regulations that overwhelmingly favor the consumer. And the consumer is you.
It's interesting to hear stories of coverage being dropped for a single hospital stay or Apogee's refused coverage over a "ridiculously minor 'pre-existing' condition". In the five years before switching to an ACA policy, I had two back surgeries. Also, my daughter spent three days in the hospital. No procedures. But they ran a bunch of expensive tests. It was a hefty bill. We kept the same coverage and our premiums increased 10-15% per year.
Before ACA, I had coverage I was happy with, at a rate I could tolerate.
Now I have significantly worse coverage, with premiums that are increasing 45 percent a year.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Feb 24, 2015 - 05:46am PT
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pyromaniac = not a thinker. I was climbing before you were born, fool.
Exactly, Sierra Ledge Rat, exactly.
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Bad Climber
climber
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Feb 24, 2015 - 06:36am PT
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Boy, this stuff gets acrimonious in a hurry. It seems that there are winners and losers in every system. With Obamacare, the lower income folks do have better access, but a lot of folks in the middle are now paying A LOT more for their "affordable" care. And much of that "affordable" care comes with astronomical deductibles, in some cases upwards of $10,000! Really cheap programs through colleges and universities that once covered lots of students are going away. Under Obamacare, losses to the insurance companies can be made up by the taxpayer. That's why the industry signed on. Jeez, another transfer of $$ from individuals to subsidize private industry. This kind of "wealthfare" drives me crazy.
Personally, I hate the damn insurance companies and tend towards a universal, single-payer system. The amounted of time and money doctors expend on dealing with insurance companies is hard to imagine. There has to be a better system, especially considering so much of health care is already taxpayer funded. We used to be able to put guys on the moon. You'd think we could work this out, too.
Sigh....
BAd
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Feb 24, 2015 - 06:54am PT
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Pyro,
+++++
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 24, 2015 - 07:28am PT
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Dirtbag,
Do you have insurance through the federal HealthCare.gov or a state-based exchange?
If so, what are your after-tax premiums?
If not, why are you so hostile about ACA criticisms?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 24, 2015 - 07:46am PT
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The ACA could be fixed and adding more cost controls would be the first fix
But the Repubs would rather scrap it and return to the past and throw everyone off their current plan rather than help America solve any real problems
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 24, 2015 - 07:53am PT
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Well gee, sketch, maybe it's because I despise the fact that folks like you state "problems" that are either complete bullsh#t, inattibutable to the ACA, or are rather trivial but instead are hyped by the right wing jerkoffs you like as evidence of the law's utter failure. So try not to get but hurt when someone challenges your claims.
And to answer your question, I have had coverage through my employer for several years. I hope everyone can one day enjoy the medical benefits I enjoy.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 24, 2015 - 07:56am PT
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Sketch, why do you care?
Would it make you happy for the ACA to fail?
Are you here just to annoy us?
Yes
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 24, 2015 - 08:14am PT
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Again, the only claim you presented attributable to the ACA--the delay in statements delaying refunds by a few weeks (assuming you don't bother to place a call to get the info)-is pretty minor. Everything else is speculation. Or masturbation.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 24, 2015 - 08:14am PT
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Товарищ Лоcь! Спасиво большое!
Продали твой Тесла сток еще?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 24, 2015 - 08:24am PT
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pyromaniac I was climbing before you were born.
dude then bring ur trip reports to the table!
your "old man intimidation skill" won't work on these young generations
RB u rock!
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 24, 2015 - 08:25am PT
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The healthcare, health insurance and drug companies are out of control
Yes criminals are running everything these days.
And fools in this thread are supporting them.
Americans are and remain stupid ......
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 24, 2015 - 08:30am PT
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So whats your point Pyro? You gonna tattle tail on me now.
jo M eventually u'll just hang urself!
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John M
climber
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Feb 24, 2015 - 08:36am PT
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So whats your point Pyro? You gonna tattle tail on me now.
jo M eventually u'll just hang urself!
thanks for the push..
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