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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Apr 25, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
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OK Jebus, granted this is America, but do we have to be all homogenized californians? I came from cali 31 years ago, i changed, the local country didn't. If we are all the same where is the diversity to celebrate?
Brennan- yeah we charge extra for blue tarp specials or avoid them altogether.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Apr 25, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
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Yes you're right Jebus. Change is the one constant and is inevitable but doesn't happen overnight. In the mean time transplants must assimilate more than the visible change in the new culture.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 25, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
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I'm going to go work on stormtroopers,I hope it has a bolted anchor;)
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Apr 25, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
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n 1964 tuition at U.C. (including Berkeley) was $110 per semester ($220 per year).
I realize I'm quoting a statement about 100 posts ago, but, in fact, U.C. tuition, denominated tuition, was non-existent until the 1970-71 school year. In 1969, I paid an annual fee of about $100 at Berkeley, covering things likes ASUC and various other campus "amenities." Then, in 1970-71, I had to pay $100 per trimester as an "educational fee" aka tuition. There was a great outcry about this, and at least one graduate from the 1920's sent her diploma back to "those cabbageheads [sic}" on the Regents imposing that fee.
By the 1978-79 year, When I graduated from law school and grad school, that fee was up to $750.00 annually, regardless of whether the student was enrolled in undergraduate, graduate or professional school.
Now, the tuition for the U.C. law schools exceeds $42,000.00 annually, and the U.C. undergrad tuition for in-state students exceeds $12,500, with an extra approximately $22,000 for out-of-state students. Needless to say, these increases far outpace the rate of inflation.
To me, education generally constitutes investment. Our current California budget seems loaded with consumption, and impoverished in investment. I don't know how we reverse that trend, but it seems a rather expensive price to pay to house 90 billionaires.
John
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 25, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
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Our current California budget seems loaded with consumption, and impoverished in investment.
Heck, we are getting a hi-speed train, what more to you need?
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 25, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
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O.K. never mind then I'm goin to the leap.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Apr 25, 2013 - 02:43pm PT
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I've said it here before, and I'll say it again... I'm in my second year of taking courses at the local CC and I am personally very impressed with the California Community College system. ANYONE who wants to go to college even just to try it out can do so in California. Many schools also offer 1 or 2 year certifications which fill an incredibly large gap in the workforce. I know way too many people who spent four years (or six) earning an almost useless BA (in terms of specific skills) that could have spent half the time (or less) and about 1/10th of the money to earn a degree at a CC that would have put them directly into the workforce with opportunity for advancement. Plus it's ridiculously cheap and in general the instruction has been quality, with an exception or two.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Apr 25, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
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bergbryce,
Having taught in the community college system, I start by admitting my bias. In my opinion, that system is one of California's true jewels. I still find it ironic that the day Governor Brown proudly announced that his administration is going forward with the high speed rail white elephant, CCSF was informed that it was in danger of losing its accreditation because of financial issues.
Unrepresented in the pie charts above, we seem to be spending our money in a way that maximizes compensation to public employees, but has no particular concern for what we receive in return.
John
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Apr 25, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
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Interesting summation Jennie......not believing in the existence of God, however, is not being anti God. How can you possibly be against or opposed to something/someone you don't believe exists?
Apologies if my post antagonized you, Mr Donini.
(I feel no ire toward concientious and plainspoken doubters of God. I used "anti-God bluster" in reference to those who deliberately try to provoke believers.)
Cultural and religious differences require a pinch of delicacy to avoid conflict.
Obviously, some have a fondness and proclivity for conflict... and relocating to another region and pointedly nettling the locals secures them the conflict they love.
(Most arrivals from the southwest don't fit that category)
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
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The places my dad rented to mormons always smelled like Spaghetti-O's and/or cats when they left.
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Barbarian
climber
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
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California is awesome. The problem with living in Orange Couty is you are $200 in gas and 5-6 hours from anyplace you really want to be.
Eagles were right...."you can check out any time you want, but you can never leave."
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:16pm PT
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The places my dad rented to mormons always smelled like Spaghetti-O's and/or cats when they left.
No Lime Jello? Are you SURE they were Momos?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
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Lime jello doesn't really have a smell, does it?
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
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The problem with living in Orange Couty is you are $200 in gas and 5-6 hours from anyplace you really want to be.
WTF do you drive???????????????????
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
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Jennie: How about a run at Gov'nor?
Welcome, Krab...
I think we better go with Fritz for governor. The Boise area and the panhandle would never vote for a mormon twit...
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Apr 25, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
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The Boise area and the panhandle would never vote for a mormon twit...
Ain't that all you gots up there?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Apr 25, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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In recent time, along with the bleeding of our natural resources we have had downturns in the military budgets of the numerous very large military establishments in the state, and our base industry "giants" (like Albertsons, Hewlet/packard, Morrison Knudsen) bought out and sold after loading with debt, or disolved totally, absorbed. Idaho is number one in independant business.
Hahahaaa... number one in "independant" business... hahahaaaa... is that what you call it when all your big businesses fail because of an incompetent work force that can't spell despite having an 18:1 student:teacher ratio? morans!
Tell us again about the evils of big government... you know, the one that provided all those jobs you now lament...
fuking tea baggers
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Apr 25, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
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Ain't that all you gots up there?
force that can't spell despite having an 18:1 student:teacher ratio? morans!
f----- tea baggers
(At the peril of offending), I'd scrutinize why your linguistic skills have declined since you left the U, sir...
Oh, silly me...geology doctoral candidates are required to become experts in transformational-generative grammar!
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 25, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
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I am on a mission to reclaim this State.
I am a Rand Paul conservative, a libertarian.
I love California, born/bred! I will change it!!
Apparently you're a comedian too. The only way you're going to "change" this state is by paying your state income taxes in nickels and dimes. Maybe you missed the fact that 2/3 of the population in our great state has no interest in becoming West-Alabama.
But please, act on your desire...move to Texas. Maybe then you can shut the f*#k up with the whining about your lot in life and how it's all the fault of those nefarious Californee libruls.
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