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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
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Doesn't the MURDERER get to go to heaven if he repents and accepts Jesus Christ as his savior???...
Pardon me, Locker, ...I know you didn't ask me...but one does not accept Christ with words. He is accepted by obedience to His gospel.
Can a soul that hastens to shed innocent blood be reconciled in obedience after the fact? I think not...the deed being done and irreversible, the slaying of innocents is unforgivable.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:10pm PT
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He was only wrong in the appropriateness of the comment and his timing.
Factually correct doesn't equal tactfully appropriate.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:13pm PT
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Can a soul that hastens to shed innocent blood be reconciled in obedience after the fact? I think not...the deed being done and irreversible, the slaying of innocents is unforgivable.
I guess the key here is "unforgivable" by whom?
Some folks would say the Jesus would/could forgive a true repentant.
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micronut
Trad climber
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:14pm PT
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Well said Bob. Sad day. We live in a broken world yall. Outlawing guns, making knives illegal, making dirty bombs against the law. None of it will change the selfish, angry, lonely human condition.
The problems of "life in the USA" isn't the problem, thinking so is a good way to spend your life unhappy. If you think Republicans are the problem....if you think Democrats are the problem......well, good luck with that.
There is an answer, and a solution to man's inate depravity. All men know what it is, if they are willing to admit how broken we all really are.
Sad day indeed. My deepest condolences for all and any involved.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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I challenge you to point out exactly where Anderson was wrong when he wrote:
"an "ar-15" is only called an "assualt" rifle due to its shape and appearence. it is NO different that any semi auto deer rifle or skeewarell shooter out there."
If you can't, then I would suggest you take your own advice and "f*#k off with stupid..."
The hunting rifles I grew up with required cycling the next round manually with a bolt.
They didn't "semi-automatically" cycle the next round themselves.
There's a difference.
Edit: Some of you seem to be confused between "hunting" and "semi-auto".
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:19pm PT
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There is an answer, and a solution to man's inate depravity. All men know what it is, if they are willing to admit how broken we all really are.
suicide?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:21pm PT
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People who use semi-auto for deer and skewerrel can't phukking shoot straight.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:23pm PT
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That's about the level of response I expected from you.
You probably should take that advice you were handing out.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:24pm PT
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Riley, I know you are never afraid to say freely what you believe and I'm fine with that. I just saw it funny that you were quick to say that blood is on those who support guns, while being so hostile in your post. It's a far bigger issue than gun control and blaming the opposite wing for these situations does nothing. I'm sure this is where you call me a pussy, and that's fine, not into long arguments on forums and don't hold a grudge. Cheers.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:27pm PT
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well said micronut.....how do we stop this?reasonable solutions,theorys,etc.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
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Pretty f*#king sad day when even the neanderthals in the House and Senate can shut the f*#k up for five minutes and leave the bullshit for another day, but the supertopo "community" is off to the races before the last dead kids body is cold. For today, anyway, this place has no class whatsof*#king ever. Why don't you all just step away from the f*#king keyboard for five minutes and look in the f*#king mirror.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:30pm PT
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Why are these nut jobs doing this....we need to get to the root of the problem. Many argue guns but our world is full of guns that can never be recovered. My opinion is these guys do it to live in infamy. They need to go bigger every time to shock the world. Personally, I think we need to go Black Hawk Down on these shooters and string them up and let the victims take turns beating their corpse. Sounds sick but I honestly believe they do this because they will be the focus of media attention until the next whacko shoots up the crowd. Media needs to stop showing pic and using shooters name. I had to unfollow a local news station on FB because every time I open up FB, it seems the Aurora j***off is staring at me on my computer screen.
Cant wait to see my kids to hug them.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
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This is from Wikipedia about 2010.
The key doesn't come over, but basically the darker the color blue, the more murders.
Murder rate per 100,000 inhabitants most recent year.
0-1
1-2
2-5
5-10
10-20
>20
Anyway, murder is not some phenomenon local to the U.S.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
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Can a soul that hastens to shed innocent blood be reconciled in obedience after the fact? I think not...the deed being done and irreversible, the slaying of innocents is unforgivable.
I think you need to qualify that statement. Saul of Tarsus murdered lots of innocents by his own admission. Are you saying that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient to pardon him?
Frankly, right now I'd rather not talk gun policy or theology, but I know of no other cure for human frailty (and no, Norton, it's not suicide).
One thing I do know, however, is that a whole bunch of innocents are dead because of a very depraved act.
John
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
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People here are reacting...
It's "normal"...
+1
Locker, that's two times now
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:38pm PT
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:39pm PT
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Am I supposed to be surprised?
This is America afterall.
The country that sucks at healthcare, sucks at education, sucks at basic human civility - but we can sure bomb the crap out out of your country.
Let's face facts - we LOVE violence like no other place on Earth.
Video games - shoot 'em ups.
Primetime TV shows - shoot 'em ups.
Movies - explosions and shoot 'em ups.
Wars - we can't go a decade without shooting someone up.
Our entire culture glorifies shooting people and then we are supposed to act shocked when someone does this?
Werner is right - we ARE stupid.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 14, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
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We are a culture of hate and violence...maybe it is the time for some self reflection and getting to core of our social issues in this country instead of always claiming we are the "greatest".
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